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Apologies if been asked.

Take 2 MS.

Can you have 2 MS equal in power, 1 made up from shields and the other from weps (both have no fleets)

If, so which one would win the battle?

Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:Apologies if been asked.

Take 2 MS.

Can you have 2 MS equal in power, 1 made up from shields and the other from weps (both have no fleets)

If, so which one would win the battle?

weapons

the one with only sheilds cant strike back

Pretty sure it would be a Pyrrhic victory though.

Sorry, I will make myself a bit clearer

What I mean is that both MS have def/weps but one has a higher ratio then the other

i.e ms A (1:2 DEF/WEPS) VS ms B (2:1 DEF/WEPS)

Thanks

Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:Sorry, I will make myself a bit clearer

What I mean is that both MS have def/weps but one has a higher ratio then the other

i.e ms A (1:2 DEF/WEPS) VS ms B (2:1 DEF/WEPS)

Thanks

ok still not sure exactly what your saying. There is a random factor that keepts the power from basicly being equel. As for a MS massing, higher weapons count allow for more damage, but lower shield counts means faster destruction of weapons.

The attacker will always have the advantage because they will repair while the defender generally doesnt.

Though, if the attacker does not repair for reasons of calculations, the attacking MS will be destroyed before the other one.
Damage will be comparable, as a result neither MS will be able to properly defend/attack again right after the exchange.


i.e. Pyrrhic victory.

Lois Lane wrote:Though, if the attacker does not repair for reasons of calculations, the attacking MS will be destroyed before the other one.
Damage will be comparable, as a result neither MS will be able to properly defend/attack again right after the exchange.


i.e. Pyrrhic victory.

whos not going to repair?

Lore wrote:

Lois Lane wrote:Though, if the attacker does not repair for reasons of calculations, the attacking MS will be destroyed before the other one.
Damage will be comparable, as a result neither MS will be able to properly defend/attack again right after the exchange.


i.e. Pyrrhic victory.

whos not going to repair?

Someone who likes to find out which is the stronger; a 2Wep1Shield MS or a 1Wep2Shield MS.
As I said.. "for reasons of calculations". Apologies for my obscure choice of words.

*Googling Pyrrhic victory*

Interesting question. In this case the winner should be defined by the random factor as (as per the 2:1 1:2 description) the defender has the same amount defence as the attacker has attack, and vice versa. Meaning that their various defences and attacks are perfectly matched. Or am I missing something?...

Tacet wrote:*Googling Pyrrhic victory*

Interesting question. In this case the winner should be defined by the random factor as (as per the 2:1 1:2 description) the defender has the same amount defence as the attacker has attack, and vice versa. Meaning that their various defences and attacks are perfectly matched. Or am I missing something?...

Well not really, as I understand it, and I may be wrong, generally the shields take heavier losses then weapons if evenly matched. If the defenders att strength is small enough that it does not blow through the defenses and take out the att weapons then it will surely fall behind quickly as the defenser is losing shields and weapons to the attacker, but the attacker MAY only be losing shields.

Really all depends on the starting stats/size of both MS to be honest.

True, if one started of with 10 wep power and 100 bil shield power, and the other with 100 bil wep power and 10 shield power...

mmm, quite difficult to put together a good scenario. In this one the 10 wep power would probably be able to waste both the 10 shield power (or is it too little shields to actually be wasted!?) and some of the 100 bil weps, thought the 100 bil weps power will blow away the 100 bil shield power, but be unable to take out the 10 wep power because there is too little of it.

Bottom line - I don't think anyone except admin can answer the question with confidence without doing extensive experiments for quite a number of scenarios.

Bottom bottom line - I'm now confused and on my way to sleep. Though this is possibly irrelevant to any part of the subject.

It was brought up becasue an officer askd what is best to build u[. Weps or def on his MS as clearly the def cost more and give more power overall.

I personally have been told to keep them about the same, your defence shields get a beating, even though you blow thru there shields and destroy weps and fleets, you still get quite a bit of damage.

This the question as I have never really got to grips with MS strategy in building the perfect ratio of weps/shields.

it's ok harakash. technology can confuse sometimes. you don't have to worry about MS strength though. i'll just blow through your hatak's shielding.

personally though, i prefer an MS with high weapons concentration and medium shielding.

high shields will do nothing but diffuse the damage while lower weapons count may not be able to pass through enemy MS shielding.

higher weapons concentration will allow your weapons fire to penetrate enemy shielding, thus reducing weapons, shield and fleet capacity of the enemy MS. at same time, your medium shielding can provide adequate defense for diffusing most of enemy attacks.