Deleted / closed post on main forum

[Draleg]

This post was closed in seconds and the total tread has somhow vanished in to fine air , i wold like to know who did it and why .

Also , if it was in the wrong section why was it not moved like it normaly is ?

One more thing , why did Pianomutt put pressure on me to not repost the tread , i feel treatend , the convo is also posted @the end.


Diamond Dust :

Dear GunZ,

In light of the long standing feud between yourself (and your alliance and affiliated alliances) and one Pianomutt2000, I would like to attempt at calling some sort of truce between both respective parties.

I appreciate that in doing the same I'm walking on eggshells slightly, and at any given moment you could no doubt destroy my forces with one swift command, however, the notion of trying to support friends within the cosmos has always been something I hold onto, and one that I remain proud of.

I act only as a diplomat, and a purveyor of possible positive future relations. I am in no way on the offensive. My position here relies entirely upon trying to exact the particulars of the warring going on between yourself and Pianomutt. I appreciate that there are always two sides to a story, and I'm taking a huge risk here trying to defend Bill's integrity, as of course, everyone knows him to be a livewire character. Deep down inside that Mothership of his however, is knowledgable and sensitive leader, who would die for his cause (no matter how ignorant or stupid it seemed).

It would seem that centuries of galactic duelling has gone before us, and this bloodshed only adds to the combined hatred happening accross the universes. Bill has expressed his deepest disdain for some of the actions he has perpretated upon yourself, and the empires of Omega. His efforts to annoy you were quite simply those of a Commander trying to lead his forces forward for the best interests of his own parties.

A great leader of men and women will always accept responsibility for their actions - regardless of wether or not it might lose them some face in the astral planes. Bill is the same, and I get the sense that you GunZ are exactly the same too. Beneath that hardened core of a dedicated leader, there is perhaps the desire to give someone a second chance. Please exact some dedication to the true spirit of humanity and show some mercy. Some forgiveness. Please give him a chance to make amends for the brutal and inconsiderate actions played out upon you.

Should I have failed to at least provoke the slightest amount of consideration for this cause, then I am beaten truly myself. I shall accept the according outcomes responsibly.

My sincerest regards,

Diamond Dust.

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pianomutt20000 :

Gunz,


This is not my doing.


Bill

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Universe :


This kite is not going to fly, I'm guessing.


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zeekomkommer :

if i know gunz he is NOT going to liek this, he already said no 4times ! and then pianomutt posts that he widraws his surrender saying in the war. and now this.

dude seriously this is going to be epic fail


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Draleg:

Dust , dont get involved , P2k is a big boy , he can take care of himself.

Dont give me a reason to give the order , you have grown a lot in the small time you re-joined , dont mess it up just yet.

ps : As a friend i wold tell you the same but wold buy you a drink when breaking the news to ya

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Shornaal:

Lol. Good try but wont happen.


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Diamond Dust:

Little I can do now, it's already posted. Set me up for epic fail. I'm actually very annoyed that Bill has the stupidity to post something as he has done.

So much for trying.

Dusty, over and out.

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End of the tread , it was closed and then no longer to be found.


MSN convo with Bill :


14/11/2008 18:58:11 Bill Omega Draleg can you talk some sense into louis?
14/11/2008 18:58:23 Bill Omega Draleg i got the thread dumped, but he wants it back.
14/11/2008 18:58:28 Omega Draleg Bill why was the topic deleted ?
14/11/2008 18:58:45 Omega Draleg Bill lock i understand but delete ?
14/11/2008 18:58:48 Bill Omega Draleg because he said he would, but he couldn't.
14/11/2008 18:58:51 Bill Omega Draleg and it's not deleted.
14/11/2008 18:58:54 Bill Omega Draleg it's somewhere safe lol
14/11/2008 18:58:58 Bill Omega Draleg it's also about the war
14/11/2008 18:59:02 Bill Omega Draleg and not in the 4 threads
14/11/2008 18:59:04 Bill Omega Draleg or am i wrong?
14/11/2008 18:59:17 Omega Draleg Bill Dear GunZ, In light of the long standing feud between yourself (and your alliance and affiliated alliances) and one Pianomutt2000, I would like to attempt at calling some sort of truce between both respective parties.
14/11/2008 18:59:28 Omega Draleg Bill i have the full tread in txt
14/11/2008 18:59:36 Omega Draleg Bill i wold like you to put it back
14/11/2008 18:59:41 Bill Omega Draleg he has it in pm.
14/11/2008 18:59:46 Bill Omega Draleg it's also violating rules
14/11/2008 18:59:48 Bill Omega Draleg i didn't move it
14/11/2008 18:59:50 Bill Omega Draleg i'm not a mod.
14/11/2008 18:59:55 Bill Omega Draleg i can see where it is though
14/11/2008 19:00:00 Omega Draleg Bill who " moved " it
14/11/2008 19:00:01 Bill Omega Draleg and I DID send it to him via pm.
14/11/2008 19:00:26 Omega Draleg Bill and ware did it go ...
14/11/2008 19:00:49 Bill Omega Draleg it's in the dump.
14/11/2008 19:00:58 Bill Omega Draleg 4 threads are allowed in regards to the server war.
14/11/2008 19:01:01 Bill Omega Draleg 2 surrender threads
14/11/2008 19:01:04 Bill Omega Draleg one war thread
14/11/2008 19:01:08 Omega Draleg Bill thats no war tread
14/11/2008 19:01:08 Bill Omega Draleg 1 discussion thread.
14/11/2008 19:01:18 Omega Draleg Bill its you vs us
14/11/2008 19:01:19 Bill Omega Draleg it has to do with my surrender in the server war.
14/11/2008 19:01:24 Bill Omega Draleg no it's not
14/11/2008 19:01:26 Bill Omega Draleg i'm in the server war.
14/11/2008 19:01:27 Bill Omega Draleg lol
14/11/2008 19:01:28 Bill Omega Draleg i'm in TG
14/11/2008 19:01:31 Omega Draleg Bill then ill repost it
14/11/2008 19:01:35 Bill Omega Draleg or did you miss the memo
14/11/2008 19:01:42 Bill Omega Draleg post it, but you might get a warning from buck.
14/11/2008 19:01:42 Omega Draleg Bill swing it so its about somthing els
14/11/2008 19:01:45 Bill Omega Draleg he's serious about it.
14/11/2008 19:01:49 Omega Draleg Bill i dont care
14/11/2008 19:02:00 Bill Omega Draleg why is everyone so determined to put my dirty laundry out there?
14/11/2008 19:02:04 Omega Draleg Bill warn me ban me , removing it is sick
14/11/2008 19:02:11 Bill Omega Draleg it's within the rules?
14/11/2008 19:02:17 Omega Draleg Bill there is not even e link in main
14/11/2008 19:02:29 Omega Draleg Bill this is being dugunder
14/11/2008 19:02:35 Omega Draleg Bill no its not
14/11/2008 19:02:42 Bill Omega Draleg yes it is.
14/11/2008 19:02:48 Omega Draleg Bill someone is bending the rules
14/11/2008 19:02:51 Omega Draleg Bill i wil to
14/11/2008 19:03:17 Omega Draleg Bill cant even find it in dusty's resent posts via his profile
14/11/2008 19:03:48 Omega Draleg Bill http://herebegames.com/StarGateWarsNew/search.php?author_id=1268&sr=posts
14/11/2008 19:03:58 Omega Draleg Bill its gone , someone erased it
14/11/2008 19:04:13 Omega Draleg Bill this is going to be a mistake
14/11/2008 19:04:40 Omega Draleg Bill and i want to put up a complaint aganst who ever did this and your ombutsman
14/11/2008 19:04:44 Omega Draleg Bill grin , to bad
14/11/2008 19:05:02 Bill Omega Draleg and...i'll just uphold bucks rule
14/11/2008 19:05:04 Bill Omega Draleg i don't like his rule
14/11/2008 19:05:06 Bill Omega Draleg but it's there.
14/11/2008 19:05:10 Bill Omega Draleg He put it in place.
14/11/2008 19:05:22 Omega Draleg Bill its not a war topic
14/11/2008 19:05:29 Bill Omega Draleg yes it is.
14/11/2008 19:05:33 Omega Draleg Bill not the FUALL war anyway
14/11/2008 19:05:34 Bill Omega Draleg i had threads locked about surrender before
14/11/2008 19:05:36 Bill Omega Draleg remember
14/11/2008 19:05:37 Bill Omega Draleg yes is it.
14/11/2008 19:05:41 Bill Omega Draleg i'm in the fuall war
14/11/2008 19:05:44 Bill Omega Draleg or did you forget.
14/11/2008 19:06:10 Omega Draleg Bill no, this is a plebargen tread from Dusty , not a war tread
14/11/2008 19:06:21 Omega Draleg Bill i'm posting , no matter wat
14/11/2008 19:06:25 Omega Draleg Bill cya
14/11/2008 19:06:29 Bill Omega Draleg no problem
14/11/2008 19:06:35 Bill Omega Draleg cya in my section after your ban.
14/11/2008 19:06:46 Omega Draleg Bill you wont ban me
14/11/2008 19:06:51 Bill Omega Draleg i wont, someone else will.
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Bill Omega Draleg i'm not a mod
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Omega Draleg Bill you cant ban for 1 warning
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Bill Omega Draleg lol
14/11/2008 19:06:59 Bill Omega Draleg i have this convo
14/11/2008 19:07:04 Omega Draleg Bill and ?
14/11/2008 19:07:06 Bill Omega Draleg and the super mod already knows that i pulled you aside
14/11/2008 19:07:08 Bill Omega Draleg that counts
14/11/2008 19:07:08 Omega Draleg Bill so do i
14/11/2008 19:07:24 Bill Omega Draleg good, then you can post that I hereby let you know that it violates the rules.
14/11/2008 19:07:26 Bill Omega Draleg multipile times
14/11/2008 19:07:51 Omega Draleg Bill sorry , i dont se it as a rulebraking post
14/11/2008 19:08:07 Omega Draleg Bill never mind , do wat you feel is correct , i know i wil
14/11/2008 19:08:11 Bill Omega Draleg you dont, that's why i tried to warn ya.
14/11/2008 19:08:17 Omega Draleg Bill you stept over the line here Bill
14/11/2008 19:08:30 Omega Draleg Bill your bias
14/11/2008 19:08:44 Omega Draleg Bill now pls leave me alone for a while
14/11/2008 19:08:47 Bill Omega Draleg no i dont
14/11/2008 19:08:53 Bill Omega Draleg why do you think my last thread was moved to the dump
14/11/2008 19:09:01 Bill Omega Draleg you have any idea how many have been, by deni?
14/11/2008 19:09:04 Bill Omega Draleg for the same topic?
14/11/2008 19:09:14 Bill Omega Draleg it's nothing new, it's exactly like the others
14/11/2008 19:09:20 Bill Omega Draleg i'm trying to avoid warnings and bannigns here


Convo end , i blokked him.

[Quina Quen]

And having read that D, along with the rest of what happened in my own conversation, I honestly don't know why I bothered. Bill wanted it retracted quite simply because it was a public thread. I only offered my assistance at trying to create some peace, and throwing out a decent peice of roleplay. The forum needs it. I found myself to have wasted my time doing it as it got thrown back in my face.

Hell, it was a nice peice of writing though.

[Draleg]

This is not a rant on your post Dusty , its the way it was handeled by Pmutt2k and the mod who " moved " it

[Quina Quen]

I know bud, I'm fighting your personal (real life interprative) corner here.

[[KMA]Avenger]

these threads are not going to work Louis, its been tried and failed.

i sent Gunz a PM ingame and he responded but i understand he's busy so haven't been able to speak with him on msn. it was always a long shot but i think if anyone's gonna get any joy out of this it will have to be done on a one to one basis with Gunz.

this should be locked.

[pianomutt20000]

I would also note, that it is the job of any player to assist in the enforcement of rules.

I have no ability to dump or delete, but if i see a naked lady picture i'll report it to the nearest mod...



Same thing here.

Bill

[David Bliss]

Hmmmm...

[Draleg]

Omega Draleg zegt (19:54):
Bill zegt (19:45):
passed it to a supermod, who has the screenshot where louis said delete it.
Bill zegt (19:45):
his decision
Omega Draleg zegt (19:49):
he did after someone moved it
Omega Draleg zegt (19:50):
i think he felt intimideted by someone
Omega Draleg zegt (19:55):
did you delete it after the move ?
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:55):
Hello bud.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:55):
I didn't delete.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:55):
Bill was cowaring out of having it up there in GD.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:55):
He requested my assistance in putting something forward.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:55):
So I put something forward.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
In public, hell it's a game and I wanted to add some roleplaying 'spice' to it.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:56):
btw , hi
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
Hello bud.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
I'm a bit annoyed at the moment, over Bill and his stupidity.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
I'm not helping him any more.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:56):
i dont mind the post Dusty , it was a good post , i liked it
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
Thank you.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:56):
You know, it never hurts to have some creativity on the forums.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:56):
and i was RP to , thats why i posted the ps in my reply
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:57):
We're talking as friends here
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:57):
Bill fails to understand the difference between roleplay and actual real life communication.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:57):
Americans for you.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:57):
hold up Dust
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:57):
Sure.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:58):
i may just use part of this convo if i get warned or banned
Omega Draleg zegt (19:58):
if your ok with that
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:58):
Well if you get banned, then I insist that you have them ban me too.
Omega Draleg zegt (19:58):
so you did NOT delete your post
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
I did NOT delete my post.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
It was moved by Clarkey.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
To the dump, apparently. But it wasn't to be seen there either.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
It was deleted.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
On Bill's request.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (19:59):
I figure he felt he was losing face.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:00):
k , so there can not be a screenshot of where louis said delete it.

Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:00):
Let me check my log with Bill.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:00):
just to be on the safe side
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:01):
Damnit, I'm using an MSN client.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:01):
Called Pidgin. I don't have a log. I was't logging the conversation.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:01):
But of what I remember of the conversation, he was pressuring me into deleting it.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:02):
ok so you felt intimidated if i understand
Omega Draleg zegt (20:02):
correctly
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:02):
Intimidated by Bill?
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:02):
Nah
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:02):
He's a **Filtered** cat.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:02):
put he did presser you ? or not
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:02):
He tried to.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:03):
ok , all i need to know.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:03):
Because he knew he was going to lose face having some post for him.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:03):
It's just hypocritical.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:03):
To ask someone to defend your corner.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:03):
Then throw it back at you because it makes you lose a little pride.
Louis - Diamond Dust - Radical Dreamers zegt (20:03):
Damnit man, you have to suffer to succeed sometimes.
Omega Draleg zegt (20:03):
Sorry this had to be your worry Dust .
Omega Draleg zegt (20:04):
But i cant let this go .

convo end

[Quina Quen]

I'll take responsibility for not reading every last ounce of the nonsense that goes on in GC, and therefore responsibility for not being aware of any such rule that inhibits me from posting a surrender topic for a 'friend'.

What destroys me Bill, is that having made the effort to put a peice of literature together, in the context of providing the community with some well needed roleplay, you and your character cowardly fall back into not wanting anything posted. This is much down to your arrogance Bill.

Seeing the situation now, and speaking with others involved on a human level, it's clear to see that you have no concept of what is roleplay (see my post in the GD). It was a grand waste of my time to even put it together.

George - I appreciate you comments mate. I do. I always have. But this time, it's not me that's out of line for once. GunZ (whoever GunZ is in real life) maybe, just maybe would have looked beyond personal feuds with BILL for a second there and added to the e-drama. Even if it came to nothing because I'm certain he's an intelligent bloke.

[Quina Quen]

And meh, double post - forgive me.

If the game did not have individuals with the levels of decency as those of Draleg, then we'd have a largely pointless community of renegades with no composure to grasp the ideals of fun.

This man is part of the same alliance that wants Bill to be permanently sat on, but has the compassion to be defending a seemingly lost cause (from my perspective). So, here's to a good fella that is prepared to stick HIS NECK ON THE LINE for human decency, unlike some.

[Draleg]

so this is the " delete it " screenshot

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=louisfh9.jpg


This shows you ar bias in this Bill , try and cover it up all you want to .

[David Bliss]

so we have a bias mod on our hands...uh oh...

[pianomutt20000]

so this is the " delete it " screenshot

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=louisfh9.jpg


This shows you ar bias in this Bill , try and cover it up all you want to .

What, you mean where he said "fine" to mean he'd get rid of it?


Oh noes, he listened to my advice for a few seconds.


Rules are the rules, if you don't like it take it to the admin. Buck is the one who created said rule.


Enjoy.

[pianomutt20000]

so we have a bias mod on our hands...uh oh...

and dude, i'm not a mod. And I am not biased in my job. You are welcome to complain in my section.

But I do not mod. Duh?

[Draleg]

Dont worry Bill , i wil take it as far as i can.

You steped out of line , even treatend me , you have gone to far.

14/11/2008 19:06:35 Bill Omega Draleg cya in my section after your ban.
14/11/2008 19:06:46 Omega Draleg Bill you wont ban me
14/11/2008 19:06:51 Bill Omega Draleg i wont, someone else will.
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Bill Omega Draleg i'm not a mod
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Omega Draleg Bill you cant ban for 1 warning
14/11/2008 19:06:53 Bill Omega Draleg lol
14/11/2008 19:06:59 Bill Omega Draleg i have this convo
14/11/2008 19:07:04 Omega Draleg Bill and ?
14/11/2008 19:07:06 Bill Omega Draleg and the super mod already knows that i pulled you aside
14/11/2008 19:07:08 Bill Omega Draleg that counts

If your not a mod how can you say i wil get a ban .
" and the super mod already knows that i pulled you aside " your not the mod , its his job to pull me aside , not yours.

ps : i'm still waiting to get that warning , or cant you find someone to stick there nek out for you this time ?