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A way to kill Untrained Units? its GETTING OUT OF HAND
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:11 am
by {Ez0}Honvik
Too many people have bought themselves rank by getting UU and there is no way UU can die but also to add to that ages ago combat losses where cut so the reason UU exsisted isnt functioning correctly that was to replace combat losses.
some people have 7 mill UU and these people cannot be touched!
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:22 am
by Artiglio
dude quit complaning and upgrade your UP

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:12 am
by mechwarrior
granted people who spend $ on uu is enoying but being able to kill is just stupid they are peoples only chance or recovering after a big mas or sab u cant kill them aswell otherwise u could get someones intire acount and leave them with what u start with. upgrade your UP
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:57 am
by Wolf359
I disagree - there was a time when UU could be destroyed (and frequently was). The big alliances of the time - TA/EPA/OoC - used to regularly attack each other and completely destroy some players. Guess what? those players bounced back.
Being able to destroy UU (and even strike troops in an attack would be more realistic), but a clever way of doing it would have to be figured out to avoid someone being attacked overnight - such as attack troops can only be killed after all defence troops are gone (and are harder to kill) - and then UU can only be destroyed after all attack troops have been destroyed (again harder to kill. Perhaps putting a % limit on the amount of UU that can be killed per day too.
If this was to be implemented, then it goes without saying that UU should also contribute to attack/defence - just like it was in the old days.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:11 am
by 12agnar0k
well if this was to come into affect, i think i may just (no not quit) but grab a knife form the kitchen and cut my own head off, leaving it on my keyboard,
sorry if that was a little grusome
btu seriously, all ive been trying to do at the momkent is build up uu by buying it anyway i can, and ive succeeded and now have 100k , which is good seeming as i havent been playing long , if this were to come into affect, a little bad blood from someone , and im *******
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:39 am
by Wolf359
ragnarok wrote:well if this was to come into affect, i think i may just (no not quit) but grab a knife form the kitchen and cut my own head off, leaving it on my keyboard,
sorry if that was a little grusome

btu seriously, all ive been trying to do at the momkent is build up uu by buying it anyway i can, and ive succeeded and now have 100k , which is good seeming as i havent been playing long , if this were to come into affect, a little bad blood from someone , and im *******
read my post again - it could be implemented so it wouldn't be possible to destroy all UU overnight - maybe just a certain % per day.
Anyway, quit complaining, like I said - it used to be possible for all UU/soldiers/weapons to be destroyed in an attack. In one session the EPA and TA took out the leaders and quite a lot of their officers - completely - and I do mean completely - they had nothing left. However, they soon bounced back and did the same to us. I have had my entire army wiped out on at least 2 occasions.
I said when the game changed to make UU invulnerable that it was the wrong thing to do - and it seems that I may have been proved right. However the only way to rectify it is to return to the old ways and allow UU to be destroyed - the problem is that because of the high UU and power of some people now, to suddenly reinroduce that rule without having some limitations would have much more of a drastic effect now than it did back then.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:35 am
by Lord_of_Night
Wolf359 wrote:I disagree - there was a time when UU could be destroyed (and frequently was). The big alliances of the time - TA/EPA/OoC - used to regularly attack each other and completely destroy some players. Guess what? those players bounced back.
Being able to destroy UU (and even strike troops in an attack would be more realistic), but a clever way of doing it would have to be figured out to avoid someone being attacked overnight - such as attack troops can only be killed after all defence troops are gone (and are harder to kill) - and then UU can only be destroyed after all attack troops have been destroyed (again harder to kill. Perhaps putting a % limit on the amount of UU that can be killed per day too.
If this was to be implemented, then it goes without saying that UU should also contribute to attack/defence - just like it was in the old days.
This is a good idea...
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:29 pm
by Tekin
What about "spreading your forces" The more UU you have, the bigger the realm you must defend, so the weaker your def. in any given place would be. So after the def. was defeated, you'd go to attack, and then to UU. Like motherships.
Re: A way to kill Untrained Units? its GETTING OUT OF HAND
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:40 pm
by BELISKNER
{Ez0}Honvik wrote:Too many people have bought themselves rank by getting UU and there is no way UU can die but also to add to that ages ago combat losses where cut so the reason UU exsisted isnt functioning correctly that was to replace combat losses.
some people have 7 mill UU and these people cannot be touched!
Lol, you beat me to posting this pal, guess you beat me to it after our convo
Anyway, it is a good idea I think Wolf359 pretty much summed it up.
I myself have nearly 1mil UU so it's not just people who have lower UU counts that want it changed.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:54 pm
by 12agnar0k
well if the rule was removed, the question everyones asking is why was it rmeoved, answer, it was a bad rule, anyway dont want to argue with you wolf, your far too powerful, i just dont liek it, thats my opninion
why not just steal them it would be alot easier to take then
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:35 pm
by troydaman40
then u could actuly put the units to good use
Re: A way to kill Untrained Units? its GETTING OUT OF HAND
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:25 pm
by 12agnar0k
BELISKNER wrote:{Ez0}Honvik wrote:Too many people have bought themselves rank by getting UU and there is no way UU can die but also to add to that ages ago combat losses where cut so the reason UU exsisted isnt functioning correctly that was to replace combat losses.
some people have 7 mill UU and these people cannot be touched!
Lol, you beat me to posting this pal, guess you beat me to it after our convo
Anyway, it is a good idea I think Wolf359 pretty much summed it up.
I myself have nearly 1mil UU so it's not just people who have lower UU counts that want it changed.
hey if your sooo set on loosing all your uu you can just transfer them to me, it would be quick and painless.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:36 pm
by Sabben
what about just putting in a maximum amount off UU allowed based on trained - kinda of like the mercs rule
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:48 pm
by Rienna
Sabben wrote:what about just putting in a maximum amount off UU allowed based on trained - kinda of like the mercs rule
how about..... no!
that would just make it so that more people get higher and higher strike, def, and covert....
And, if you ever got to a point where you liked your covert/strike/def then all the naq you sunk into up would be pointless.
Just go with the idea that after all the def is gone a % of UU could be killed a day, it's the most fair to all players.
Besides, with your ideas, new players couldn't start. without any trained they couldn't have any untrained... and they'd get NO naq...
Also, on PPT, you wouldn't be able to borrow other people troops or untrain your spys and soldiers because then you wouldn't have enough trained....
I don't think you thought that suggestion through....
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:50 pm
by 12agnar0k
i prefer no uu loss, but i dont think anyone cares , nope,