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Attacking With Mothership?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:48 pm
by Daff
This might seem like a stupid question to some, but I don't have a mothership yet and at the moment don't really need one. But I was just wondering. Does your Mothership strike action count towards your normal strike action when attacking?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:54 pm
by GhostyGoo
Yes.. could you please read the part of the game updates section which refers to how though? Because there is a reason we write stuff in there you know.

-Goo™

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:31 pm
by Daff
I'm sorry. I hadn't made myself all that clear. I had read the updates, but I still wasn't sure. It says that motherships can only be damaged by other motherships. Does this mean that a motherships strike action only counts towards the attack if you're attacking someone with a mothership?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:21 pm
by Setesh
Daff wrote:I'm sorry. I hadn't made myself all that clear. I had read the updates, but I still wasn't sure. It says that motherships can only be damaged by other motherships. Does this mean that a motherships strike action only counts towards the attack if you're attacking someone with a mothership?

no i believe it means your energy shields and volleys on ur mothships can only be destroyed by other motherships

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:00 pm
by GhostyGoo
-sigh- :) ok, rofl. Here it is, one more time...

Both attacker and defender have a mothership: The Mothership will battle it out BEFORE the ground troops do. If anything of your mothership's power is left after minusing from it the strength of the opposing mothership, the "left over" amount will be transfered onto the ground troops as a bonus.

Only Attacker has mothership: The Mothership will transfer ALL it's power to the grounds troops immediately on entering the battle BUT you Mothership can only as much as DOUBLE your ACTUAL stat (attack/defence).. so, if your mothership attacks with 200 million and your actual STRIKE ACTION is (for instance) 70 million, your mothership will only transfer another 70 million onto your ground troops, giving you a strike action of 140 million.

Random Points:

Motherships are good for many reasons i find, especially now you get more defence and strike action for your naquada. Before the update the Motherships where a little unbalanced, too expensive and not enough power. Now that has changed. I think it is important to remember that really the way i see it, motherships do 3 main things..

1. Can increase Overall Rank dramatically
2. Boost your strike action
3. Hide your true defensive capability

Explain:

1. I've said before, my advice is get your attack/defence up to 500 million (whichever you choose to work on) and then begin saving 1 billion naq. Once you have it buy your mothership and spend the 550 million change on weapons/shields slots and weapons/shields to go into the slots. Once you have done this, you will have a good starter ship that will earn you a nice tidy amount of ascension power points too. You should find that, with a mothership helping your rank out, the other three stats will become much more sensitive to improvement; making your rank increase easier.
2. Self explainatory really. You have a 500 million SA (strike action) and your repair bills are already looking silly, so... now you have a very much feasable choice.. stop buying weapons for ground troops and improve your mothership's SA. Improve it until it is as close to a billion SA as you can and then stop (you wont get anymore of a bonus after your mothership effectively doubles your SA). Basically, who DOESNT want MORE STRIKE ACTION, as much as double what you have already but your death toll and repair bills stay the same, except the occasional volley that falls off your mothership.
3. Motherships cannot be recon'd; humans, generally speaking, have an inherant fear of the unknown. Why wouldn't you want something potentially massive and completely hidden in your realm?

Well, i hope this helps and seriously.. if anyone esle asks me about motherships.. i'm going to go outside and murder a kitten in cold cold blood. Your conscience is at my liberty :P

No, seriously.. if you have more questions.. just ask i guess and perhaps we'll get a "sticky" out this thread :)

-Goo™

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:14 pm
by goodie
As far as i know, and have seen in my own battle reports, motherships do not, as of yet help in defense, is this ment to be like this, or is it on forums list of things to fix?
This would be nice, i have lost several battles by a margin that could of been made up by my mother ship with ease

Ask if you battle reports to see this..

And i believe that there is a thread about it in the bugs forum to, so i dont need to go repost over there.

goodie

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:31 pm
by GhostyGoo
Indeed, it is a work in progress as stated on the updates page, which is also the reason it being prone to radical change, for instance, making the weaponry 10 times more powerful.

Basically, at this moment intime, as far as i am aware, your mothership WILL battle in defence of your realm and if it wins the fight, the left over power will be transferred onto your ground troops.

I believe the "bug" you are refering to has already been commented on by myself and was started by JGG, however we are still unsure as to why it does not show how much of the attacking mothership's strength was transferred to their ground troops once the mothership battle is completed. You know yourself that the mothership attack works, because proof of it is apparent from your attack logs. Now, if there really was a bug here, your enemy would not have written in their report "your mothership is able to transfer xxxx of it's power onto your ground troops. The problem is this doesn't show in your "defensive battle log", it will only show power transferrence if your ship succesfully defends and has some power left over. As far as i am aware.

-Goo™

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:39 pm
by goodie
well...

Ive read your post, and i still think theres a problem, we shall see, i dont think i have a battle repost approprate from after update that will illistrate the bug, but, what used to happen is that (in my case) is that there was no enemy mothership, and the difference in attack power and attack power was close enough that my mothership could of swung that battle even if it didnt show up in the battle report.

We shall see tonight i will get attacked, and with the new updates it now adds 200mil, not 20 to my defense, if it works.

Which is more than enough to swing most battles i face over night.

goodie

Edit (again):
Yes i actualy i SHOULD have a battle from after the update, that is short of several hundered million mothership help, although i wouldnt of won with its help.

And i have a few were i have had a mothership battle, won it, and it still hasnt helped.

Do you want the battle report link?

goodie

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:00 pm
by GhostyGoo
I am not going to go any further into this Goodie, it's the wrong place. You are very much steering this slowly but surely away from the topic. The thread relevant to this is in the proper place and it is being worked upon.

I just want to re-state that your mothership will not help your ground units if it loses the battle.

-Goo™

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:19 am
by Eternal Usul
Another reason for buying a mothership(in my opinion), is that as time goes on...more players in high ranks will be buying them...

As your rank rises...more ppl with motherships will be attacking you...

Their motherships will add strength to their attack, doing more damage to your forces...

The solution...buy a mothership, and outfit it with heavy shielding, as well as good weaponry...

Then when you're attacked...you will fend off the enemy mothership, and have a better chance at defending your realm...

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:10 am
by Daff
GhostyGoo™ wrote:.......Only Attacker has mothership: The Mothership will transfer ALL it's power to the grounds troops immediately on entering the battle BUT you Mothership can only as much as DOUBLE your ACTUAL stat (attack/defence).. so, if your mothership attacks with 200 million and your actual STRIKE ACTION is (for instance) 70 million, your mothership will only transfer another 70 million onto your ground troops, giving you a strike action of 140 million.......


^^^That's what I wanted to know. Thanks a lot for your help.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:33 am
by Flavar
Also having a really good mothership might lead to the fact that some people with weaker motherships stop farming you. Really farming soembody who regularly detrsoy 5 or more weapons of your mothership will only be done if there is an additional 10 million out for your normal losses rate.