Server status

[adminGary]

The Origins server is currently being reset.

I should have it back up in a few hours.

Best of luck in live.

Thanks to everyone who helped bug test the beta.
It was a bumpy ride.

AdminGary

[Midnight]

Hopefully we got most of the bugs fixed.

[Angnoch]

*is excited*

[Apocalypse.]

*is excited*

I second that !

[semper]

The Origins server is currently being reset.

I should have it back up in a few hours.

Best of luck in live.

Thanks to everyone who helped bug test the beta.
It was a bumpy ride.

AdminGary

How long????! I will ask before the torrent of other users flood in and ask, though I wont be logging on until tomorrow afternoon with all likeliness.

On a further note? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you abolished the 48 hour ppt Gary? I may actually cry if you have not because it WILL ruin the game to a degree when the inevitable farm fest comes.

A missed ppt of a couple hundred K could give someone a massive lead. So like I said..hopefully you will abolish it, and just give us a two turn ppt from the moment we log in.

[Apocalypse.]

A missed ppt of a couple hundred K could give someone a massive lead. So like I said..hopefully you will abolish it, and just give us a two turn ppt from the moment we log in.

Would that mean that everyone already registered would have ppt until they log in ?
I like the 48hr ppt it gives everyone a chance to save some money and decide the direction they would like to go in the game .

[adminGary]

I'm thinking 48 hour ppt aswell, unless anyone can convice me otherwise before I finish with the server reset.

Also the time when people come off ppt is being spread over 12 hours.
(Ie minimum ppt time 48 hours, max ppt time 60 hours)

[semper]

I'm thinking 48 hour ppt aswell, unless anyone can convice me otherwise before I finish with the server reset.

Also the time when people come off ppt is being spread over 12 hours.
(Ie minimum ppt time 48 hours, max ppt time 60 hours)

We had a debate about it, its in the development section. We discussed the pro's and cons and quite a few of us agreed that we would only need a two turn start.

You see Gary I have played many of these games from their start and they all start the same way. 48 hour ppt, and I know of and played two that had some straddled with ppt. Here are the problems..

48 hour, set ppt:
People come off at the same time. There is a massive farm fest. Firstly not everyone is online. Secondly some have faster internet speeds than others, some spend the best part of a day clicking re-fresh as every turn goes by because they have no life to purely get THIS advantage, and some are better players than others and know how to farm and spend efficiently. To cut this short, maybe two or four or five maybe eight people at the most will farm a truck load than everyone else, its inevitable..and it happens.

This then creates a massive power gap in the game. You have your two-five top dogs, who usually then go and get into an alliance together and basically rule the game. Because they have more resources to use 99% of the time they discover the best way to manipulate the markey quickly, or the generally ingame system and their power escalates as they share this with themselves and abuse the resource needs and general inexperience of the other players.

It is hell, trying to play a game like this..once this gap is made, the only times it ever ends is when the people leave. I promise. In fact we had a perfect demonstration of it this time round. SGT john keel got 38million naq off one ppt hit. If he had spent that wisely at that stage of the game..he could have easily dominated, probably with little to no challenge.

48 straddled ppt's:

Its all the same, just because people come off within a space of 12 hours does not mean it wont be a 12 hour farm fest. The same thing will happen.

Not to mention, and I can near enough guarantee..someone will moan because they only got 48 hours ppt, and someone else got 60.


In conclusion, the only thing you can do, to best ensure that this power gap will not be created and people spend their naq, is to make the ppt as short as possible but give people enough time to spend their starting naq. Two turns from the point of log in should be more than ample time for anyone who signs up, or from when the beta players first log in, to spend their naq and get ready to farm. At most people will be able to get a turns income off someone. In the most tragic of circumstances at least it wont be a potential 96 - 120 turns of income.

edit:
viewtopic.php?f=176&t=134337

is the link to the original post and subsequent discussion.

[Midnight]

I agree. We need to have a limited amount of protection.

Perhaps there is a way to code it something similar to the following layout:

ppt=next_login+60mins

Basic and gives everyone a chance to look things over and then utilise any current naq, and get themselves setup.

Don't know if the above coding is potentially possible (php is not my forte unfortunately).

[adminGary]

I agree. We need to have a limited amount of protection.

Perhaps there is a way to code it something similar to the following layout:

ppt=next_login+60mins

Basic and gives everyone a chance to look things over and then utilise any current naq, and get themselves setup.

Don't know if the above coding is potentially possible (php is not my forte unfortunately).

I think I might be able to cook something up. But this can only in effect for people currently registered. To have new players start with 1 hour is a bit reasonable, thus, new players get 48 hours. Current players will get an hour. Will take a little time to set up though.

[Midnight]

Hmmm... considering a line of this thinking...

Could it be worked something like:

id(0-1000)ppt=next_login+60mins

[adminGary]

If only it was that simple...

[Colton]

Indeed..

[Apocalypse.]

does that mean that users registered immediately after the reset will get 48 hours of ppt ?

[adminGary]

New users get 48 hours ppt, current user get 1 hour once they log in.