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profit??

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:54 pm
by Lore
Whats the scale on taking naq on farming hits?

I was farming and hit a 8300 naq hit and only got 2905

is the % taken suppose to go so low?

and this happened repeatedly so it wasnt a case of someone hit the same time i did. 1 case was 8500 na out, first hit took 4300 and second took 2200, so it took 2 hits just to get 3/4 of his exposed naq?

Re: profit??

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:00 pm
by Borek
yeah, the amount we get on a hit varies wildly, i've had as low as about 33% and as high as 90%. I think it should have less variety myself, say 60-80%...

Re: profit??

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:03 pm
by Midnight
Well the biggest gap I had was someone who had just over 15k in the open and over 4 hits got 13.5k in total from him.

Best I had was 8.9k from someone who had 9.2k.

Re: profit??

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:22 pm
by Lore
Can you imagine what thats going to be like in the future?

AG I hope you have a look at this, it wasnt this wild in beta???

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:14 am
by Seaborgium
The faigue thing, the higher the alert on teh account the less you get per hit.

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:32 am
by Manetheren
It shouldnt vary that much though. I attacked some with over 20k out and got 40% of it.

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:08 am
by RedKnight
i need the big hits now, my attack is too big for the current hit rate, im losing so much out of it

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:03 am
by Apocalypse.
I farm a LOT and I can't for the life of me figure a patter out , the amount varies , but this variation has nothing to do with rank , or their defense v my offense . It's just wack.

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:53 am
by Borek
pizza_guy wrote:The faigue thing, the higher the alert on teh account the less you get per hit.
haha, the fatigue has zero effect on what you steal, so many people seem to think it does.

What fatigue does is determine how much Naq your attack and defense troops EARN per turn. Yes, weird as it sounds your soldiers earn naq when they are not fighting (fatigued), more than the UU's if no fatigue. The amount you steal appears to be completely random and unrelated, unless gary added it in as an undocumented feature anyway.

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:25 am
by Lore
Borek wrote:
pizza_guy wrote:The faigue thing, the higher the alert on teh account the less you get per hit.
haha, the fatigue has zero effect on what you steal, so many people seem to think it does.

What fatigue does is determine how much Naq your attack and defense troops EARN per turn. Yes, weird as it sounds your soldiers earn naq when they are not fighting (fatigued), more than the UU's if no fatigue. The amount you steal appears to be completely random and unrelated, unless gary added it in as an undocumented feature anyway.



Yeah, i have hit for about 30% and then the next hit take 90% so that cant be it.

Also, found something VERY intresting, and i did double check this more then once.

I saw a guy with 20,000 out, and i went to attack and saw 20,000 out again, so i attacked and got 25,700, and he still had 3,300 left after the attack.

AG if this helps its feb 6th
08:19 ******** 25,775 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:29 am
by Borek
that sounds to me like whoever it was taking naq out the bank to train spies or assassins and you got lucky Lore :)

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:48 am
by Lore
Borek wrote:that sounds to me like whoever it was taking naq out the bank to train spies or assassins and you got lucky Lore :)

its possible.

but to have 20,000 out and then take 8 or 9 more out?
IDK

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:51 am
by Epyon {recruiting}
in the middle of farming prehaps near a turn change

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:06 pm
by adminGary
It's hard to say what is going on, I'm looking into it.

I haven't changed anything to do with the ratios since beta.

As for Attack Fatigue, that only affects the income produced by attack units on server ticks.

Re: profit??

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:39 pm
by semper
aye, because I have been getting silly amounts from hits, especially today.

I mean most of the time I am hitting people with 12k+ out at the time, and coming back with between 5 and 6k...thats silly!