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I am really upset that Jason is unbanning ppl just cos they use a lot of $$ on the game .

I know the players get a different treatment just cos of the way they spend cash on the game Jason and i understand , i don't mind you answering a paying members mail faster .

But when it comes to unbanning known cheaters just cos they spend $$ it is totally wrong and against any moral.

I know this is a big accusation but its become to obvious lately that your not thinking justice but cash.

I hope this gets forwarded to Jason if not i will pay pal it to him .

This post is NOT about sides or alliances , its about the rules of the game so don't start the " he , him and you " blaming game.

ps : i'm wondering if my account is a RED one , the ppl who need to know what this means know what it means.

I would advise you to take this to the IRC Meet on Wednesdays as that is most likely the way you will get this to Jasons attention.

First , not everyone can get to the irc meetings .

Second , this is something all players of the game need to know , what they do with this info is there own decision .

Three , i'm only posting cos some other ppl voiced there concerns to me and as i am one of the ppl that use cash on the game i'm prolly not going to get banned for writing it.

Earendil wrote:I should be there Draleg and I'll make sure to point this to him if no one else will

I say anyone and everyone should. Not just get one person to point out this thread, but get more people to point it out in the same meet. That way it shows that more people agree with Draleg than just one person.

I myself will also try and mention it, however I may not be at meet due to a pre-funeral service. But I'll try and get it to his attention too.

Well I have, and so have others, more then once.

Problem is, certain people make it to the meets, and so do their friends and supporters. On the other hand, others do not, and when they do it few and far between.

A lone consoladated voice of many speaking in harmony is the only way to reach admin or gain his ear, nothing short of it will do.


As for many things that have happened, or were undone. Its much more difficult then anyone can imagine. Even a blantent admission of guilt is contestable. You can often "know" what happened, but can not prove it.

Now, keep in mind, if it becomes a "guilty till proven innocent" mindset then when will it stop? Trust me, if certain information is considered proof and acted upon then there will be a flood of false information hit these forums in an attempt to get people banned.

While I don't like many of Jasons actions, I can appriciate the fact he wants to be sure he gets only the guilty.

most of us dont know which unbans you are referring to, so why dont you start by explain/proving those. you will have a hard time proving it because only a admin can tell weather a person is truly cheating or not.

AssAsinX wrote:most of us dont know which unbans you are referring to, so why dont you start by explain/proving those. you will have a hard time proving it because only a admin can tell weather a person is truly cheating or not.

Why do you tend to speak on behalf of the majority?

You may not know who we speak of, but that doesn't mean the majority don't.

There have been plenty of high profile players banned and subsequently unbanned after a bit of crying.

AssAsinX wrote:most of us dont know which unbans you are referring to, so why dont you start by explain/proving those. you will have a hard time proving it because only a admin can tell weather a person is truly cheating or not.

Who is not the issue , it would only complicate and sidetrack the true reason this post was made.

Lets ask the first thing we need to know :

Are there RED , BOLD and normal accounts ?

RED for big $$ spenders

BOLD for smaller $$ spenders

normal for no or nearly no $$ spent

I'm sure AdminMark can give us an answer.

Draleg wrote:

AssAsinX wrote:most of us dont know which unbans you are referring to, so why dont you start by explain/proving those. you will have a hard time proving it because only a admin can tell weather a person is truly cheating or not.

Who is not the issue , it would only complicate and sidetrack the true reason this post was made.

dam lol thats exactly what i was hoping for.

Draleg wrote:Lets ask the first thing we need to know :

Are there RED , BOLD and normal accounts ?

RED for big $$ spenders

BOLD for smaller $$ spenders

normal for no or nearly no $$ spent

I'm sure AdminMark can give us an answer.

it probably doesnt exist. even if it did, you cant blame the admins for needing money to keep the game alive can you? + its THEIR game.. thats probably why money is a big factor everywhere.

i can speak from personal experience, if that kind of a list did exist. Id be banned long a go.. and would never get unbanned for explaining to them.. and i havnt spent any money on it..

What are you saying , i spend $$ on this game so i can just set up an extra account or 2 and i don't have to worry about it cos its not going to be a problem as long as i keep spending $$ ?

I don't blame Jason for needing $$ to run the game and get food on the table , i just don't like it when it looks like $$ change the rules for the ppl spending it.

as for your " personal experience " , as i told you before , lets not go with individuals , its the practice that's the issue , not the person's in this case.

Now stop sidetracking this tread , you have already made it clear that you want to spam this tread for your own amusement.

read the end part of my post maybe?

Draleg wrote:Now stop sidetracking this tread , you have already made it clear that you want to spam this tread for your own amusement.

yea it is very amusing to see you trying get a change, *EDITED*

I will leave this alone now.

EDit,, couldnt resist this

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sorry i got to say draleg, i may agree with you on this and it is wrong to treat people in a different manner. however you know that money can have a big influence on anything in dailey life so its not suprising that it affects this game.

~r8~ wrote:sorry i got to say draleg, i may agree with you on this and it is wrong to treat people in a different manner. however you know that money can have a big influence on anything in dailey life so its not suprising that it affects this game.

i know , but thus this mean we have to lay down and take it ?

Its not a problem for me , i have spent $$ on the game but do i need to get a different judgement cos of it , when it comes to it ?
I think not , ok some perks like getting your mail read faster or getting more time to chat with admin on irc days but not when its breaking or bending the rules.

This is ironic in a sense - its the big spenders that are anti-ascension. which is an aspect of the game that admin may have intentions of promoting. The game gets dry - adding ascensions makes it more interesting. As it is a personal choice to ascend or not - the bonuses should remain the same. Point is, the big spenders may have the power to sway admin's decisions, which is not right