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Here's a thread I suggested in another thread as kind of a joke. Then after reading the reply I received, I decided to post it for real.

What are your thoughts on the legend of Atlantis. Not SGA, but the one lost and supposedly sank in the center of the Atlantic ocean.

There are several theories and I would like to here all you can come up with. I have read some pretty convincing ones over my life of reading and want to see if there are some I haven't heard of yet.

My favorite is that a comet struck the Earth roughly 7500 B.C. and literally spun the Earth like happens when you fill a basketball with liquid and spin the surface. The core remains still while the outer surface spins. So Atlantis is actually not sank just shifted South and is now buried under a mile of ice in Anartica. It is a theory I first read about in a non-fiction book called Atlantis Found. One of the Dirk Pitt novels by Clive Cussler.

I then found other actual scientists that believed that same theory and they were the source for Clive's book.

Hit me with some more and we'll get this party started!

very intresting info there Lonewolf1968 and this topic should be fun well for me i beleve it did sink i beleve dont no when but i beleve roughly all the volcanos under the sea all errupted at once creating a huge sunami bigger than any on record and i beleve this sunami struck the lost city of atlantis with epic force it basicly ablittarated the city and every thing sank to the botom of the ocean and all of it is now underneath the sea bed covered in dirt and wat not so ye that is my opinion but i want to hear some more opinions this should be intresting good topic my friend it will be very intresting see wat views we get on this

We'll see how many actual intelligent posts we get. I'm sure we will see some really juvenile ones but am hoping for some deep intelligent discussions.

I like the theory that most of the early "advanced" civilizations originated from the survivors of the sinking continent. That is one of the theories as to why some of the ancient buildings are very similiar. I.E. the Myan, Aztec, Tolltec, and Egyptian pyramids.

yes i beleve you there Lonewolf1968 that would not be hard to argue with all see if i cant get some more info on it

ok i have some more info on this

The story of the Isle of Atlantis first occurs in Plato's two dialogues the "Timaeus" and the "Critias." Plato's story centers on Solon, a great Greek legislator and poet who journeyed to Egypt some 150 years earlier. While in the Egyptian city of Sais Solon received the story of Atlantis from priests. The priests respected Solon's reputation and cordially welcomed him. They also respected the Athenians, whom they regarded as kinsmen, because they believed their deity Neith to be the same deity as the Greeks called Athena. Therefore, she was believed to be the patroness and protector of both Greece and Egypt.
The story that the priests told Solon was unknown to him. According to ancient Egyptian temple records the Athenians fought an aggressive war against the rulers of Atlantis some nine thousand years earlier and won.

These ancient and powerful kings or rulers of Atlantis had formed a confederation by which they controlled Atlantis and other islands as well. They began a war from their homeland in the Atlantic Ocean and sent fighting troops to Europe and Asia. Against this attack the men of Athens formed a coalition from all over Greece to halt it. When this coalition met difficulties their allies deserted them and the Athenians fought on alone to defeat the Atlantian rulers. They stopped an invasion of their own country as well as freeing Egypt and eventually every country under the control of the rulers of Atlantis.

Shortly after their victory, even before the Athenians could return home, Atlantis suffered catastrophic earthquakes and floods until it disappeared beneath the sea. All of the brave men were swallowed up in one day and night of horror according to legend. This is why the Egyptians were ever grateful to the Athenians.

Also in the story Plato gives is a history of Atlantis that shows how the rulers eroded to such a state were they wanted to conquer everyone. This history had been recorded by Solon in notes that were handed down through his family.

According to Solon's notes the history of Atlantis began at the beginning of time. It was then that the immortal gods divided the world among themselves and each ruled their proportion. The god Poseidon received Atlantis, an island larger the Libya and Asia combined. He chose for a wife the mortal woman Cleito, and with her begun the royal family of Atlantis.

Poseidon built Cleito's home on a high hill at the very center of the island. The home overlooked a fertile plain bordered by the sea. For his beloved wife's protection Poseidon surrounded her house with five concentric rings of water and land. He carved the rings with the ease and skill of a god. He made hot and cold springs come from the earth. With the development of a future city his descendants never lacked for water.

Cleito bore Poseidon ten sons, five sets of boys. Atlas the first son of the first set of twins, was made king over the vast territory by his father. His brothers were appointed princes and each ruled over a large section of the territory that was distributed to him. The most valuable section of the kingdom remained his mother's home on the hilltop and the land surrounding it. This was given to Atlas. Atlas himself had many sons with the succession of the throne always passing to the eldest son.

For generations Atlantis remained peaceful and prospered. Almost all of the population's needs were met from the island's mines, fields and forests. Anything that the kingdom did not produce was imported. This was possible because a channel was eventually built which transversed all the rings from the ocean to the center of the kingdom, or the acropolis. On this stood the royal palace near the original home of Poseidon and Cleito. Each succeeding king tried to out do his predecessor in building a greater kingdom. Finally the splendid city Metropolis and the outer city of Atlantis existed behind a great outer wall.

Poseidon sat down laws for Atlantis that the rulers were to fellow. The ruling body was to meet regularly. It was to consist of ten rulers that represented the first rulers -- Atlas and his nine brothers -- who reigned with absolute power of life and death over their subjects. These meeting occurred in the temple of Poseidon where the first rulers inscribed the laws on a pillar of orichalcum. First, as required by ancient ceremony, pledges were exchanged. Then a sacred bull was captured and killed. The body was burned as a sacrifice to the god. Then the blood was mixed with wine and poured over the fire as a act of purification for each man. The rulers were served wine in golden cups, each poured a libation over the fire and swore by oath to give judgment according to the inscribed laws. When ending his vow each drank his wine and dedicated his cup to the temple. This was followed by a dinner that preceded the rulers putting on magnificent blue robes in which they judged matters concerning the kingdom according to Poseidon's laws.

As long as they judged and lived by Poseidon's laws they and the kingdom prospered. When the laws began to be forgotten trouble began. More of the rulers eventually began marrying mortals and started acting like foolish humans. Soon pride overtook the rulers who soon began grasping for greater power. Then Zeus saw what had happened to the rulers. They had abandoned the laws of the gods and acted in an evil coalition as men. He assembled all the gods of Olympus around him and was to pronounce judgment on Atlantis. This is where Plato's story stops.

Whether Plato intended to end his story of Atlantis so abruptly or whether he intended to extend it no one knows. Just as no one knows whether Plato believed in the real existence of the island or whether it was purely a mythical kingdom. Many have said they believe that Plato believed in the island's existence because he exerted so much detail in its description, while others reject this by claiming since the story was purely fiction Plato could put in as much detail as he wanted, it does not prove a thing. Also in doubt is the time period of the story. Solon writes the island existed 9000 years before. This would place the time period in the Early Stone Age. In this period it is hard to imagine the type of agriculture, architecture and sea navigation as described in the story. One explanation for this time period inconsistency is that Solon misinterpreted the Egyptian symbol for "100" for "1000." If this be the case then Atlantis would have existed 900 years before. This would place the Atlantians in the Middle Bronze Age where they would possess the tools and equipment needed for the development described within the story.

To collaborate this 900 year theory there is geological evidence showing that roughly about 1500 BCE there was a gigantic volcanic eruption which caused half of the island to sink into the sea. Also a lost city has been said to have sunk in the Bay of Naples. At the time several rich and luxurious seaside resorts were located in the area. In the retelling of the story of Atlantis it is easy to see how one of these cities could be associated with it. The story is still being told which enthralls hundreds, as archaeological digs are conducted to unearth evidence of the real Atlantis. Until then the myth remains.

i also have some location therys if you would like to see those Lonewolf1968

That was a long post but worth it. LOL

That just makes me wonder if some of the things in Stargate could be sort of true. At least the part of extraterrestrials having posed as Gods in ancient Earth history.

I mean imagine the technology we have today and then being thrown back in time to the early Bronze Age or just before with something we take for granted on a daily basis. Like a cell phone, modern weapon, or just this laptop I'm talking to you on from several thousand miles away.

Then someone that could travel between stars shows up. Gives you something to think about.

Lonewolf1968 yes that truly does make you think lol but it would be cool if that had happened i,ll post some location therys in a min kk lol

Atlantis in Antarctica

The search for Atlantis in Antarctica started probably as a result of the interpretation of Athanasius Kircher's map and the old position of Antarctica, thousands of years ago.

Antarctica was discovered for the first time, according to our records, by Captain James Cook, in 1773-1774. But could Atlantis have been found or has its existence been acknowledged before that? Professor Charles Hapgood, of Keene College, was the first one to propose such a theory. Antarctica supposedly became an ice mass 300,000 years ago. However, Hapgood states that the pollen spectra found in the Ross Sea and dating from 4000 BC, shows that Antarctica was covered in ice much later than initially thought.

The next wave of supporters emerged after the Flem-ath's book, "When the sky fell", was published in 1995.

Plato says that Atlantis was the size of Libya and Asia together. It is now thought that in those times, Libya meant North Africa, while Asia was the Middle East. If one adds up the sizes of the two regions, one obtains the size of Antarctica without its ice cap. However, since 11,000 BC the sea levels rose, covering the shores of the continent.

The theory is nice, however, for some of us, it is not convincing enough. If you do want to find out more on it though, visit Flem-ath's web site.

Indeed, there might be relics under the ice and at the moment, it is impossible to dig for them. But, on such a vast continent, nothing was found on shore either (or near the shore). If we accept that Atlantis is Antarctica indeed, then we must get rid of most of the descriptions Plato provides. The island obviously didn't sink, it just moved. Or, if you wish, it didn't move during the ice-age, but long before, and while it was still where it is now, it was inhabited by Atlanteans. As I said, you can believe what you want, somehow though, for me it just doesn't sound right.

II. Atlantis and Thera (Santorini)
How did it become almost common belief among scientists the fact that Santorini is Atlantis? I'll give you everything you need to know, "pro and contra", even though, with all due respect, I don't support this theory either. I'll try to start with the beginning, and work on it.

Picture on the left: aerial view of Santorini Island, found in the Aegean Sea, between Greece, Turkey, and Egypt. Courtesy of NASA.

In 1628, a powerful volcanic eruption hit nowadays Santorini Island. It was so powerful, that blocks of rock were hurled around, stones were moved on the nearby island, Crete, and the whole area was covered in ashes.

In 1894, an expedition led by Sir Arthur Evans discovered on the island of Crete, near the Kephala site, a bronze age palace. The place was the Knossos site and the palace was that of King Minos. The civilization that inhabited the area until the volcanic eruption of 1400 BC was the Minoans. The Minoans were advanced in art and architectural design. Their paitings show the close relationship they had with nature, on one hand, and the realistic views (e.g.. fights), on the other hand. They religion implied sacrificing bulls, and Plato mentions this when talking about Atlantis.

In the 1930s, the Greek archeologist, Marinatos Spiridon, was investigating Crete, when he realized that some ruins had been moved by 200 feet. After some consideration, he came to the conclusion that maybe a powerful volcanic eruption might have moved the stones, so he started looking in the direction of Santorini.

Indeed, the calamity was so strong back then that the waters of the sea turned black and the ash reached until Crete. Most probably, all the neighbors were able to witness the event, and the tidal waves hit hard the neighboring shores.

Impressive ruins were found on Thera, but no human bodies. It is believed that maybe the disaster started with small eruptions and earthquakes, which motivated the inhabitants to escape to the nearby countries. The northern Egypt witnessed Minoan influence while in Israel, very similar art (including bulls), belonging to the Sea People (Philistines), was found.

Minoans were having the monopoly of the Aegean and Mediterranean Sea. Their vessels were developed and they were fearful warriors. It is a good moment now to remember Dr. Schliemann's account about the vase with the Phoenician inscription: "From the King of Kronos of Atlantis". That would make sense maybe, if we think that their country was about where Syria is now and they ruled the seas. They might have found the vase on Santorini maybe.

It is known that Egyptians were extremely precise about history. If Solon, or Plato, heard the story from them, then we know that a catastrophe happened indeed. As Galanopoulos and Bacon suggest in 1969, maybe the "9000" years that passed since the event might have been actually 900 years. If we add to these 900 years another 600 years (300 BC, when Plato lived, plus another 300 for when Solon lived), then we get 1500BC, around the time of the volcanic eruption on Santorini.

Even though the calamity was of such an extraordinary ampleness, no records mention it. So could it be Plato's, thus Solon's account the one that talks about it? Helike and Vesuvius were less powerful, however, they've been mentioned.

If the theory proves true and Atlantis turns out to be indeed Thera, then why would Plato and the Phoenicians refer to it as "Atlantis"? It is known that even back then the Mount Atlas was found in Morroco, a bit far from Thera. And why would they talk about the Pillars of Hercules? If he is so exact about the time when the eruption took place (well, cutting a 'zero' from his 9000 years, but still in the '900' area), about the bull in the religious rituals, about the perfection of the civilization and their monopoly over the sea, then why would he invent locations like the 'pillars of Hercules' and the fact that behind it lay the big ocean and the real continent? For once, Santorini's location is in a small sea, with only lands surrounding it, as for the pillars, they are too far away to be even taken into consideration.

Some might say that it's a problem of interpretation, but then I'd find Piri Reis's and Kircher's maps useless.

Another thing that bothers me in this theory is the '9000' being changed to '900'. Given the fact that most ancient civilizations mention floods and calamities that happened during the last ice age (which is 9000 BC), I think it's unfair to 'relocate' a disaster to fit the Santorini theory. It's actually the same as denying all the other writings, or, for that matter, changing all the other texts' story date to 1500 BC. It wasn't in 1500 BC when the floods took over land, but it was during the last period of the ice age.

Even if Santorini fits so close Plato's description, I still don't support this theory. There are many other areas that are being researched, similar in a way or another to Plato's 'Dialogues', trying to ignore one or two pieces of information to give the authentic look of Plato's Atlantis found in another place. Why would Santorini be any different?

I thought this might be a fairly popular topic. So far you and I are the only ones posting Odin? Maybe more will pick up over the weekend.

yes i see lol Lonewolf1968 its unfortunet we dont have more views but im sure things will pick up over time

We'll just have to see if anyone else has any theories they would like to share.

I'm all ears!!!

lol i hope so to its nice to learn somthing new everyday

i bumped it m8

I know the greek writer Homer speaks of Atlantis in his texts(the only problem is he was blind).e said it sunk after a great earthquake and also speaks over wonderous,never seen before thins(!) in the city,but no mention about the people that build it...