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What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:51 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
Ok quite a few people have asked me what the deal is with Omega and EPA/EPAC so I've decided to post a little history between our two alliances.
Of course it all began when M (Wolf359) and I became friends. He had joined Omega in quantum first wave and we used to talk regularly. He led his alliance with honour, a quality which I consider important and so it ended up that Omega and the EPA formed an alliance of friendship. Unlike some other groups in this game, we don't make alliances of convenience. I used to liase with the EPA HC at the time alot, had full access to all their forums and so on. Together we had some great wars with the Systems Lords Alliance and when Jarihn bought Iron's account (at that time the only account as powerful as mine), created his alliance and planned to go to war with the EPA, I stepped in and stopped that threat.
So as things go, after many months, DD joined us as part of the Grand Alliance..and then eventually DDE. During this time the EPA had grown into EPAC. Basically a huge amount of players! During a collective decision, it was decided that each alliance could only have 120 members each. Due to this Omega had to withdraw it's invitation to the AK and FAHQ in joining the OE as our numbers would have surpassed the 120 limit. The EPA were offered the same deal but refused to cut it's members. So a vote was taken by the 3 alliance leaders, Virgil, REK and myself. They voted to remove the EPA and I voted to keep them, majority decision standing. And so CoP was born!
Now suddenly, out of nowhere, EPAC members were talking about Omega being responsible for their ouster and how war was inevitable. Having access to their forums, I read the badmouthing which continued for a bit. Even though my own HC access was removed, I had, through a slice of luck the login details of one of the former HC of EPA. In the guy's defence, I must add he was not a traitor. I once had problems logging in and needed to read up on something and he volunteered his login (this was when we were allies). I can't recall the guy's name but it's beside the point. So one day reading up on their forums HC section and I come across an attack order from JaseB to attack Omega at a specific time. On discovering this, I showed this to the OHC and used my veto to declare war on the EPAC. And so the Omega/EPA war took place. They were defeated and then Acronon had a fit and gave their leader access to our entire forum. Surprise Suprise, he found that not only Omega weren't planning a war with the EPA, but had never intended to go to war with our old allies.
Since then the great motto that their founder set up has fallen by the wayside. They ally with anyone who suits their purposes, while claiming their supposed allies don't tarnish their own image. When leading members of their alliance insult other alliances not at war with them, their leadership doesn't have the balls to make the person apologise. The TF of course are so desperate for allies they'll accept JMB's (whatever his name is) insults. But then when all you are left with is Elusive 2 and his buddies doing most of the fighting, you can't complain where you get your allies.
And finally a message to the EPA leadership. You lot dishonour the legacy of Wolf and so I do not recognise you as the allies we once shared so much with. If Wolf were still around, we all know that he would never have allowed fools to dictate his alliance's policy and go to war with Omega. And most definitely he knew us well enough to know that war was never inevitable as long as there was honour.
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:21 am
by Brdavs
Before I yield the stage to the parties (more) involved I just hav to ask one thing... and comment on another.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Unlike some other groups in this game, we don't make alliances of convenience.
Isn`t April fools in like 2 weeks time?
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:The TF of course are so desperate for allies they'll accept JMB's (whatever his name is) insults. But then when all you are left with is Elusive 2 and his buddies doing most of the fighting, you can't complain where you get your allies.
Big talk for a guy descended every other month and afk 98% of the time with former adversaries carrying his cat tooshie. Hows that lubing up of admin to ditch ascended going btw? And recruiting of every newb that knows where the declare war button (but not much else) is?
Ya, stcks and stones kitteh commiteh, sticks and stones.
P.S. This is just classic for you. Lill birdies on tree branches were singing on OEs little dance around EPA to join OE. They were all that plus a bag of chips up to the point they said no eh heh... classic, with us, awsome & honorable d00des, against us, cheating lying scum & dirt. Swithch normally occurs as needed and in a nanosecond or two.
Then you have the gaul to go on about your personal integrity and nonpragmatic approach to allying yourself etc. Must hurt to be repeating such things on and on with a str8 face I wager.
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:45 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
Brdavs wrote:Before I yield the stage to the parties (more) involved I just hav to ask one thing... and comment on another.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Unlike some other groups in this game, we don't make alliances of convenience.
Isn`t April fools in like 2 weeks time?
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:The TF of course are so desperate for allies they'll accept JMB's (whatever his name is) insults. But then when all you are left with is Elusive 2 and his buddies doing most of the fighting, you can't complain where you get your allies.
Big talk for a guy descended every other month and afk 98% of the time with former adversaries carrying his cat tooshie. Hows that lubing up of admin to ditch ascended going btw? And recruiting of every newb that knows where the declare war button (but not much else) is?
Ya, stcks and stones kitteh commiteh, sticks and stones.
P.S. This is just classic for you. Lill birdies on tree branches were singing on OEs little dance around EPA to join OE. They were all that plus a bag of chips up to the point they said no eh heh... classic, with us, awsome & honorable d00des, against us, cheating lying scum & dirt. Swithch normally occurs as needed and in a nanosecond or two.
Then you have the gaul to go on about your personal integrity and nonpragmatic approach to allying yourself etc. Must hurt to be repeating such things on and on with a str8 face I wager.
look who's talking! do u know what admin refers to you lot in the Legion? similar to gold farmers..all ur crap doesn't disguise the fact that you all deceitfully began the war and then pretended to be innocent about it. So look who lies..as for cheating, do you really want me to go there? Consider yourselves lucky that I don't take this game too seriously anymore, or your members will be exposed. Shall I give you an example. Do you know why Blahh was REALLY MAD at admin when claiming to be mad over reborn/sti. It's because admin deleted his 'resource' accounts. Accounts with SS which generated turns for him. Shall I go on? Anyone can claim anything about anyone, but you seem to forget who you are dealing with. Consider yourselves lucky I don't betray confidences of CERTAIN people.
As for ascension, I could care less..you idiots do realise that when u descend someone they don't earn as much naq..ergo less to farm..Do you really think you could descend me if I didn't want you to. lol
As for the EPA saying no..poor you! You have no clue do you. A majority voted to join except for ygg members.
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:50 am
by Fallout
little OT but i would change the Subject, "What's the deal with the EPA and the OE.." sounds like a question, at least for me it did. If you want a really correct subject i recommend something like "Propaganda against EPA" or something in that area. Its really confusing this way as it is.
Thanks for listening
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:11 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
Fallout wrote:little OT but i would change the Subject, "What's the deal with the EPA and the OE.." sounds like a question, at least for me it did. If you want a really correct subject i recommend something like "Propaganda against EPA" or something in that area. Its really confusing this way as it is.
Thanks for listening
should have been 'what the deal is between Omega and the EPA (F)..lol
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:12 am
by Fallout
that's better too
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:27 am
by Brdavs
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Brdavs wrote:Before I yield the stage to the parties (more) involved I just hav to ask one thing... and comment on another.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Unlike some other groups in this game, we don't make alliances of convenience.
Isn`t April fools in like 2 weeks time?
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:The TF of course are so desperate for allies they'll accept JMB's (whatever his name is) insults. But then when all you are left with is Elusive 2 and his buddies doing most of the fighting, you can't complain where you get your allies.
Big talk for a guy descended every other month and afk 98% of the time with former adversaries carrying his cat tooshie. Hows that lubing up of admin to ditch ascended going btw? And recruiting of every newb that knows where the declare war button (but not much else) is?
Ya, stcks and stones kitteh commiteh, sticks and stones.
P.S. This is just classic for you. Lill birdies on tree branches were singing on OEs little dance around EPA to join OE. They were all that plus a bag of chips up to the point they said no eh heh... classic, with us, awsome & honorable d00des, against us, cheating lying scum & dirt. Swithch normally occurs as needed and in a nanosecond or two.
Then you have the gaul to go on about your personal integrity and nonpragmatic approach to allying yourself etc. Must hurt to be repeating such things on and on with a str8 face I wager.
look who's talking! do u know what admin refers to you lot in the Legion? similar to gold farmers..all ur crap doesn't disguise the fact that you all deceitfully began the war and then pretended to be innocent about it. So look who lies..as for cheating, do you really want me to go there? Consider yourselves lucky that I don't take this game too seriously anymore, or your members will be exposed. Shall I give you an example. Do you know why Blahh was REALLY MAD at admin when claiming to be mad over reborn/sti. It's because admin deleted his 'resource' accounts. Accounts with SS which generated turns for him. Shall I go on? Anyone can claim anything about anyone, but you seem to forget who you are dealing with. Consider yourselves lucky I don't betray confidences of CERTAIN people.
As for ascension, I could care less..you idiots do realise that when u descend someone they don't earn as much naq..ergo less to farm..Do you really think you could descend me if I didn't want you to. lol
As for the EPA saying no..poor you! You have no clue do you. A majority voted to join except for ygg members.
@ Cheating: Ye that hasn`t abused the brokerbug and "tested" a bunch more on occasion cast the first stone?
I`m calling you out, here and now. Betray
everyones confidance. Expose
everything, what do you care, you dont take it seriously any longer. Cos theres pleeeeeenty of butter to go arround and on peoples faces, yourelf, vasgt majority of the old faithfull and famous and even his majesty J included, lets not dance around the bush any longer about that k lol? Only reason blahh stayed around if(since) what you say is true is because he has/had
massive leverage on you people, right? Am I wrong? Or is it out of the goodness of your heart that he was not banned, simmilary as to how you make 500 member coalitions of everyone and anyone that could (have) hurt eachother based on purely "buddy buddy, we be tiiight bro" effect - and in no way pragmatism? Blow the wistle.
Get the lot banned and games rep shot to pieces, please. I don`t care either.
But I`ll be damned if I`ll take preaching on morality from the likes of you.
?
Thought so.
@ Ascended related stuff:
May be less naq to farm... but it goes like this....
all MS techs.... 25tril
Spy Lvl 34..... 51.5 tril
Seeing REK and ETL, the ever selfproclaimed 1337 gods of sgw and their respective empires deascended.... priceless.
Some things can be bought with naq.... for everyting else there is huge TOC.
Anyways, you do yourself a disservice. I`ll even recognise you have valid points about the EPA situation as there prolly was some confusion at the time, but you wrap the parcel of your pov in such flashy "look at me I`m a martyr" BS packaging (accompanied with a nice big red bow of "subtle" shots at 3rd parties and obvious historical revisionism/flexible double standards to suit you) that you make it impossible for people that prefer thinking for themselves to take you seriously. And beggs for some2 like me to come allong and derail the discussion.
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:28 am
by REK
lol I remember that meeting thou I could swear between all our other talks about god knows what the EPA question took on a EtL keep em virgil hell no REK what he said ..lol
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:31 am
by papa~smurf
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:
members will be exposed. Shall I give you an example.
I don't betray confidences of CERTAIN people.
u know, i care little for your rambling on who took your "red caryon" a hundred thousand years ago, and i mean that to both sides
but honestly...if u know or believe some one is cheating...be it on any side...u need to tell the coumuity, cause that lessens the game, and the shielding of cheats...well that lessens u
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:00 am
by semper
Isn't this an interesting topic eh? A little informative history, some immature macho posturing and a few cheater accusations.
All we need now is an actual ban, a murder, a hot girl, some guns and a hollowed dead volcanoe and we have ourselves another incredible waste of time. Yay!!!
At least it'l be amusing to watch though...
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:08 am
by papa~smurf
* slides down rope, ak47 slinged over shoulder, into a riot of sgw players, throwing handfuls of bovine poop at each other*
Semper wrote:Isn't this an interesting topic eh? A little informative history, some immature macho posturing and a few cheater accusations.
All we need now is an actual ban, a murder, a hot girl, some guns and a hollowed dead volcanoe and we have ourselves another incredible waste of time. Yay!!!
At least it'l be amusing to watch though...
mlh says she loves u u silver tongue smoothy
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:29 am
by Skunky
Skunky
*shakes finger*
you know better
next one is a warning
MLH
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:00 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
Brdavs wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Brdavs wrote:Before I yield the stage to the parties (more) involved I just hav to ask one thing... and comment on another.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Unlike some other groups in this game, we don't make alliances of convenience.
Isn`t April fools in like 2 weeks time?
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:The TF of course are so desperate for allies they'll accept JMB's (whatever his name is) insults. But then when all you are left with is Elusive 2 and his buddies doing most of the fighting, you can't complain where you get your allies.
Big talk for a guy descended every other month and afk 98% of the time with former adversaries carrying his cat tooshie. Hows that lubing up of admin to ditch ascended going btw? And recruiting of every newb that knows where the declare war button (but not much else) is?
Ya, stcks and stones kitteh commiteh, sticks and stones.
P.S. This is just classic for you. Lill birdies on tree branches were singing on OEs little dance around EPA to join OE. They were all that plus a bag of chips up to the point they said no eh heh... classic, with us, awsome & honorable d00des, against us, cheating lying scum & dirt. Swithch normally occurs as needed and in a nanosecond or two.
Then you have the gaul to go on about your personal integrity and nonpragmatic approach to allying yourself etc. Must hurt to be repeating such things on and on with a str8 face I wager.
look who's talking! do u know what admin refers to you lot in the Legion? similar to gold farmers..all ur crap doesn't disguise the fact that you all deceitfully began the war and then pretended to be innocent about it. So look who lies..as for cheating, do you really want me to go there? Consider yourselves lucky that I don't take this game too seriously anymore, or your members will be exposed. Shall I give you an example. Do you know why Blahh was REALLY MAD at admin when claiming to be mad over reborn/sti. It's because admin deleted his 'resource' accounts. Accounts with SS which generated turns for him. Shall I go on? Anyone can claim anything about anyone, but you seem to forget who you are dealing with. Consider yourselves lucky I don't betray confidences of CERTAIN people.
As for ascension, I could care less..you idiots do realise that when u descend someone they don't earn as much naq..ergo less to farm..Do you really think you could descend me if I didn't want you to. lol
As for the EPA saying no..poor you! You have no clue do you. A majority voted to join except for ygg members.
@ Cheating: Ye that hasn`t abused the brokerbug and "tested" a bunch more on occasion cast the first stone?
I`m calling you out, here and now. Betray
everyones confidance. Expose
everything, what do you care, you dont take it seriously any longer. Cos theres pleeeeeenty of butter to go arround and on peoples faces, yourelf, vasgt majority of the old faithfull and famous and even his majesty J included, lets not dance around the bush any longer about that k lol? Only reason blahh stayed around if(since) what you say is true is because he has/had
massive leverage on you people, right? Am I wrong? Or is it out of the goodness of your heart that he was not banned, simmilary as to how you make 500 member coalitions of everyone and anyone that could (have) hurt eachother based on purely "buddy buddy, we be tiiight bro" effect - and in no way pragmatism? Blow the wistle.
Get the lot banned and games rep shot to pieces, please. I don`t care either.
But I`ll be damned if I`ll take preaching on morality from the likes of you.
?
Thought so.
@ Ascended related stuff:
May be less naq to farm... but it goes like this....
all MS techs.... 25tril
Spy Lvl 34..... 51.5 tril
Seeing REK and ETL, the ever selfproclaimed 1337 gods of sgw and their respective empires deascended.... priceless.
Some things can be bought with naq.... for everyting else there is huge TOC.
Anyways, you do yourself a disservice. I`ll even recognise you have valid points about the EPA situation as there prolly was some confusion at the time, but you wrap the parcel of your pov in such flashy "look at me I`m a martyr" BS packaging (accompanied with a nice big red bow of "subtle" shots at 3rd parties and obvious historical revisionism/flexible double standards to suit you) that you make it impossible for people that prefer thinking for themselves to take you seriously. And beggs for some2 like me to come allong and derail the discussion.
show me where I used any sort of broker bug? You can't! Yet it is a fact my account was hacked by Legion members. Coincidently, when the war began during our initial attacks, out of nowhere the server goes down..suspicious. And your little slovenian meeting? Interesting news came from there. You guys laughing at how you were signing on into each other's accounts.
And to top it all off..where's your leaders run off to?lol Using other accounts like they usually do? lmao
As for martyrs..
FACT- you guys spread propaganda trying to gain more allies to join your side.
FACT- you all act innocent and moralistic when your alliance's actions began this war..or shall I post those facts for those who don't know WHY they are fighting.
FACT- You lot are in disarray, with no central leadership. Most of your fighting is done by a small group led by ELUSIVE 2. Let's be honest here. Alot of your members don't get any say in your wars. And when I say members, I mean ALLIANCES.
And lastly but most importantly, the Omegan Empire and DDE are still here, stronger than ever. We retain our chain of command. We retain our organisation.
And I have never claimed to be a martyr. I defend my friends and allies. EtL is a bastard, let's be glad you don't know what I am really like.
PS: And one is only self proclaimed when no one else acknowledges it. As others do, REK and me ARE your GODS!!!
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:05 am
by Angnoch
*REK and EtL please grant clarity to those who cannot or do not open their eyes*
Re: What's the deal with the EPA and the OE..
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:11 am
by greenman
ETL wrote:I have to be the center of attention at all times. I keep trying to quit, but I can't find this much idol worship anywhere else, so I come here to be worshiped for a short time. Then i get bored and "leave". But after a while, I realize that I miss being the center of the universe, so I come back again. For this wave of the "I Love ETL" lovefest, I decide to post quasi history that does nothing more then to beef up my already enlarged electronic ego, and that nobody cares about except my friends. Don't worry, I'll leave again in a couple months, but I'll soon realize that the real world doesn't afford me the attention I so obviously deserve. LISTEN TO ME! LISTEN TO ME! PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEE!