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I'm wondering why some people believe in those theories, that there are some hidden agendas of taking over the world..
I know that X-Files was very convincing, that no governement is totally clean, that there are some power interests here and there. But, come on...listening to this stuff, it's like it is a plan started like over a century ago, that it has its bunch of followers, never decreasing with new generations coming. Why would they wait THAT long? Afterall, we have seen nazism, fascism and communism totalitarianships terrorize and hurt deeply the world in last century. Why would this NWO wait that long to be implemented while much worse systems were implemented in a matter of a decade?
It just proves it's making mountains out of molehills, and is just paranoia.

LegendaryApophis wrote:I'm wondering why some people believe in those theories, that there are some hidden agendas of taking over the world..
I know that X-Files was very convincing, that no governement is totally clean, that there are some power interests here and there. But, come on...listening to this stuff, it's like it is a plan started like over a century ago, that it has its bunch of followers, never decreasing with new generations coming. Why would they wait THAT long? Afterall, we have seen nazism, fascism and communism totalitarianships terrorize and hurt deeply the world in last century. Why would this NWO wait that long to be implemented while much worse systems were implemented in a matter of a decade?
It just proves it's making mountains out of molehills, and is just paranoia.

ALL, of those underlined have been the creation of the banking elite mate, that's what people don't realize...

try watching The Money Masters for a dose of truth. EVERYTHING in that film can be verified and proven, and is a masterful bit of film making, it doesn't have ANY conspiracy theories in the film, its all about MONEY and nothing else.

I guess I'll get that on a flashdrive tomorrow at school.. dialup for the lose. o_O

its a 3 and half hour film, give the film 30 mins of your time and if you dont like what you see at that point you are obviously under no obligation to watch the rest, but everyone i've recommended the film to agrees that it is a very good and informative film. another film without the conspiracy's is The Corporation.

back on topic:

i never liked the X-Files and try as hard as i could, i could never get into it, so i gave up watching it by the middle of the 1st season.
anyways, to answer your question about how long the elite have had this plan for pops, a VERY long time.
time means nothing to these people pops. ask yourself why royalty only marries royalty, going all the way back to the Pharaohs and even before them, inbreeding within royalty goes on to this very day.

Because ppl will fight to the death if they think their little corner of missery is threatened.Its easier to just wait and make the "public" all dumb and willing to give up anything for their 15 minutes of fame or +200 bucks.If you look around you,you can see ppl questioning everything when its suites them and being hardent believers when they have a common goal...its stupidly easy to control someone BECAUSE their uneducated or simply tapping in their basic needs/desires/beliefes.On topic i think one can sum this in a few words by Tacitus :"Be assured those will be thy worst enemies, not to whom thou hast done evil, but who have done evil to thee. And those will be thy best friends, not to whom thou hast done good, but who have done good to thee."Question not those who can benefit in any way from you but that which can happen and bend yo you benefit!

[KMA]Avenger wrote:its a 3 and half hour film, give the film 30 mins of your time and if you dont like what you see at that point you are obviously under no obligation to watch the rest, but everyone i've recommended the film to agrees that it is a very good and informative film. another film without the conspiracy's is The Corporation.

back on topic:

i never liked the X-Files and try as hard as i could, i could never get into it, so i gave up watching it by the middle of the 1st season.
anyways, to answer your question about how long the elite have had this plan for pops, a VERY long time.
time means nothing to these people pops. ask yourself why royalty only marries royalty, going all the way back to the Pharaohs and even before them, inbreeding within royalty goes on to this very day.

Funny because I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, I like X-files, and find it ALOT more easy to believe than *any* conspiracy theories.
Probably because I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and thus would believe real "conspiracies" and not made up ones..

But well, we are ALL DOOMED... It's an all planned plan from the elite, since elites started to appear in early civilizations five thousand years ago..
Fortunately I'm not believing what I said!

LegendaryApophis wrote:Funny because I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, I like X-files, and find it ALOT more easy to believe than *any* conspiracy theories.
Probably because I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and thus would believe real "conspiracies" and not made up ones..

i'll let people better than me do my talking :


"All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed, Second it is violently opposed, Third it is accepted as being self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher, (1788-1860)

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
Winston Churchill

"The most costly of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably ( not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind."
H.L. Mencken

"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt."
H.L. Mencken

"People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"All living souls welcome whatever they are ready to cope with; all else they ignore, or pronounce to be monstrous and wrong, or deny to be possible."
George Santayana

"What, sir? You would make a ship sail against the wind and currents by lighting a bonfire under her decks? I pray you excuse me. I have no time to listen to such nonsense."
Napoleon Bonaparte to Robert Fulton, upon hearing of the latter's plans for a steam-powered engine.

"That is the biggest fool thing we have ever done ... The bomb will never go off, and I speak as an expert in explosives."
U.S. Admiral William D. Leahy to President Truman, on atomic weaponry (1945)

"The discovery of truth is prevented more effectively not by the false appearance of things present and which mislead into error, not directly by weakness of the reasoning powers, but by preconceived opinion, by prejudice."
Schopenhauer

When leading authorities are all in agreement, they are almost always wrong.
An Old Axiom

"Almost everything that almost everyone believes is wrong."
Andrew J. Galambos

"Great thinkers have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds"
Albert Einstein

"The truth of today was the heresy of yesterday. Therefore, dare."
Immanuel Velikovsky.

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction."
Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

"X-rays are a hoax."
Lord Kelvin, engineer and physicist (c. 1900)

"Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are that good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats."
Howard Aiken

"He who never walks save where he sees men's tracks makes no discoveries."
J.G. Holland

"New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed, without any other reason but because they are not already common."
John Locke

"There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em."
Louis Armstrong

"If we watch ourselves honestly we shall often find that we have begun to argue against a new idea even before it has been completely stated."
Wilfred Trotter

"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing with new eyes."
Marcel Proust

"A man receives only what he is ready to receive... The phenomenon or fact that cannot in any way be linked with the rest of what he has observed, he does not observe."
H. D. Thoreau

"It is a puzzling thing. The truth knocks on the door and you say, 'Go away, I'm looking for the truth.' and so it goes away. Puzzling."
R. Pirsig

"The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best - and therefore never scrutinize or question."
Stephen Jay Gould

"By far the most usual way of handling phenomena so novel that they would make for a serious rearrangement of our preconceptions is to ignore them altogether, or to abuse those who bear witness for them."
William James

"The soft-minded man always fears change. He feels security in the status quo, and he has an almost morbid fear of the new. For him, the greatest pain is the pain of a new idea."
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"New ideas are always criticized - not because an idea lacks merit, but because it might turn out to be workable, which would threaten the reputations of many people whose opinions conflict with it. Some people may even lose their jobs."
physicist, requested anonymity

"Sit down before facts like a child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abysses Nature leads, or you shall learn nothing."
T.H. Huxley

"When the human race has once acquired a superstition, nothing short of death is ever likely to remove it."
Mark Twain

"You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back."
Beverly Rubik

"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert."
Anonymous

"A new idea is delicate. It can be killed by a sneer or a yawn; it can be stabbed to death by a joke, or worried to death by a frown on the right person's brow."
Charles Brower

"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices." William James

"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you."
Don Marquis

What I don't understand I despise, what I despise I reject.
The Referee's Creed




i wonder how many people will actually take in any of the above "TRUTHS"???

Someone claiming now Earth is square with pretended proves, he would be made fun of, but it doesn't mean Earth is square!

erm, jim...you kind of proved my point lol

[KMA]Avenger wrote:erm, jim...you kind of proved my point lol

So you pretend Earth is square and it's just us not admiting the truth it's not round but square? Ohhh come on!

Just because something doesn't appear to be right, doesn't mean it is! Humans aren't able to set them invisible, and yes, it's the case with how we are now.

Unless of course you are an hardcore reptilian conspiracies believer, then yes, everything is possible..

what, reptilians are running the world?

no mate, i dont believe reptilians are running the world, as i've said on MANY occasions, the bankers are running things

what i meant was, when it first proposed that the earth was a globe (something that ancients already knew) it was dismissed outright because Europeans feared the unknown. the same is true with our solar system, when (whoever it was, cant remember his name), proposed that the earth revolved around the sun and that all planets were round and followed a set course around the sun, the man was labled a heretic, blasphemer and all sorts of other names...

if you truly want to understand conspiracy's, it would help if you first stop thinking of them as "theories" and looked at the evidence objectively and with an open mind....

which is why i posted those quotes, read them and understand what's being said

i'm a truth-seeker, i dont care for "theories", that means i look at all evidence regardless of the source, and if i find the evidence credible i alter my perception, opinion and thinking accordingly, this is vital in ANY area of truth-seeking, be it science or anything else. if people were not willing to change their opinions, then we would still think the world is flat and that heavier than air flight is impossible.



"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
Frank Zappa

very nice quotes

[KMA]Avenger wrote:its a 3 and half hour film, give the film 30 mins of your time and if you dont like what you see at that point you are obviously under no obligation to watch the rest, but everyone i've recommended the film to agrees that it is a very good and informative film. another film without the conspiracy's is The Corporation.

Just watched all 3.5 hours worth of it
Was a nice eyeopener, thanks!

try watching Money As Debt, made by the same people who made The Money Masters but is less than an hour long and touches on the creation of money rather than who controls it.

tell me what else interests you so i can make some recommendations, or, if your into conspiracy's, then 9/11 ripple effect is also a well made and presented film, i've seen allot of films with regards to 9/11 but ripple effect is by FAAAR the best presented film on the matter. 2 more good films with regards to The Elite is Alex Jones films Terrorstorm and Endgame.

6 more films i HIGHLY recommend are: Historic Interview with Aaron Russo, America-Freedom to fascism (freedom to fascism is all about Aaron Russo trying to find the law that requires Americans to pay taxes, Aaron even talks to the lawyer who wrote the tax code and what he says will blow you away) The Panama Deception, American Drug War-The Last White Hope, The World According to Monsanto and The 4th World War.

Deaths_Rider wrote:very nice quotes

thanks, putting aside conspiracy's and whatnot, they make very good reading