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Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:42 am
by Juliette
Preem Palver wrote: Since I'm not ascending (nor buying any packages, I'm afraid), it was just curiosity - I thought you might know something we ordinary folks don't ;)
My knowledge in this context is theoretical.. and I doubt it is something only I know. *grin* But yes. I do know things.. muahahaHA! Unicron tells me many things. So many things. Ah well.. if we need certainty, our Lord Rahl will provide it. :-D For now, we rest in the certainty of Faith. :o

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:28 pm
by Am Heh
***The Following Two Ascensions are not added into the Main Wars (Not Yet Anyway)***

24th ascension (??????)

SPOILER | +



25th ascension (??????)

SPOILER | +


I thought admin said no more after 23. Is this changing?

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:57 pm
by Gaius
Market used to give like 2-3 billion naq per market turn, ascending was easy at that point.. :< Oh well, just half a day 'till 17th.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:39 pm
by GameSquire
Am Heh wrote:
***The Following Two Ascensions are not added into the Main Wars (Not Yet Anyway)***

24th ascension (??????)

SPOILER | +



25th ascension (??????)

SPOILER | +


I thought admin said no more after 23. Is this changing?

Not what I've heard. But you never know if the Admins changes their minds :P All I know is that these 2 ascension doesn't exist yet.

Why I've left those 2 ascension requirements in this guide is just for a guess of what they might be, even though they do not exist.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:47 pm
by Juliette
No plans to expand the ascension tree exist at this time.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:55 pm
by Am Heh
Good bc I will most likely have to use a ton of UU/trained for my raw :(

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:06 pm
by GameSquire
Juliette wrote:No plans to expand the ascension tree exist at this time.

Thanks for confirming that Juliette :D

Am Heh wrote:Good bc I will most likely have to use a ton of UU/trained for my raw :(

Ya Later requirements sure suck alot of resources IMO, I've stopped my ascension run cuz of it

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:29 pm
by Am Heh
Some of those Unknowns close to 3million raw, will never be able to ascend, unless they build out UP planets to grow over plague lol

For the 23. ascension with 3,000,000 Unit Production you will need:

8,999,999,999,999 naquadah,
487,499,999 untrained units and
359,999,999 trained units.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:46 pm
by Juliette
Hahaha.. with 3M raw (let us say 5M total, for instance) you can survive the Plague up to 700M armysize.. or at least, that is what I understand? So that should be possible.. would be an epic ascension though. :P (You would get a nice amount of APP, making you have to wait about a year - or two - before you have converted all your APP.)

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:54 pm
by Am Heh
Think the highest I would want go is 2million raw, that would get it about so you need about 590 million give or take a few million army to ascend

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:24 am
by Gaius
I never reached Plague in the past, but from what I understand it tampers with your unit production by reducing it drastically? From what I recall you can no longer trade for units with other players, but what about market? You could get a bit under 1mil units using all 3 turns for it with max packages, as far as I recall, so that would be a nice help for ascension if another ascension level was made.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:37 am
by Juliette
Gaius wrote:I never reached Plague in the past, but from what I understand it tampers with your unit production by reducing it drastically? From what I recall you can no longer trade for units with other players, but what about market? You could get a bit under 1mil units using all 3 turns for it with max packages, as far as I recall, so that would be a nice help for ascension if another ascension level was made.
Plague causes the death of existing units. It does not stop new ones from being 'born'. :)

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:13 am
by Gaius
Ouch, harsh, have to spend more naq on re-training them so?
One would wonder, if there's a plague, shouldn't a leader quarantine an area and prevent reproduction?
Oh well.

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:23 am
by Juliette
Gaius wrote:Ouch, harsh, have to spend more naq on re-training them so?
One would wonder, if there's a plague, shouldn't a leader quarantine an area and prevent reproduction?
Oh well.
Personally I advocate mass-genocide (see what I did there) over quarantine. ;)

Re: Ascension Guide & Other Guides

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:36 am
by Sniperwax
Juliette wrote: Personally I advocate mass-genocide


When my realm gets close to plague I always put the Canadian-Asgards on the front lines. I got no problem with Canadians I gots no problem with the Asgard but Canadian-Asgards I cannot tolerate.