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For Avenger

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:05 pm
by Jack
Merry Christmas :lol:


Like Uberverse said, it's a link click it. :D


To be honest, it's really not that surprising, kinda obvious really. But I thought it would give our good Avenger some talking points. :P

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:16 pm
by Juliette
Why?


Oh.. okay.. :)
It's a link. For those who are wondering what value it has.

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:46 am
by Sammael
i dont think it does work the link does but wot i says on the website.

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:37 am
by Jack
I disagree, I believe that it does work.

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:45 am
by Q Man
no, i had to read through it twice to figure out what it actually spelt out!

but there definatly are some sort of subliminal messaging that does work!

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:49 am
by Jack
Q MAN wrote:no, i had to read through it twice to figure out what it actually spelt out!

but there definatly are some sort of subliminal messaging that does work!

I'm not saying that what the author tried works. XD I'm saying that I think that the article is right. :lol:

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:57 pm
by Juliette
Jack wrote:
Q MAN wrote:no, i had to read through it twice to figure out what it actually spelt out!

but there definatly are some sort of subliminal messaging that does work!

I'm not saying that what the author tried works. XD I'm saying that I think that the article is right. :lol:

Exactly. :) The power of subliminal messaging is subtility and efficiency. A few words, preferably fitting just right in the sentence.. but once combined in your mind, giving a strong signal.


It is quite common actually.. one form is the use of euphemisms, for example the whole "war rhetoric" from the Bush-era that has now been abandoned by the Obama administration, has been replaced with very much more sensitive and subtle words.
Crude example would be work camps vs. concentration camps.. subtle example would be freedom fighters vs. rebels. :P



Subliminal messages used for actually getting you to do something.. I don't know. I'm sure it works to some extent.. but I cannot oversee the entire range of possibilities in that regard. :)

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:13 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
Jack wrote:Merry Christmas :lol:


Like Universe said, it's a link click it. :D


To be honest, it's really not that surprising, kinda obvious really. But I thought it would give our good Avenger some talking points. :P



i feel honoured lol


but personally, i don't even look into any of this because the TV and especially the news is ALL subliminal messaging (TV shows are not called "programming" for nothing).
an example would be the news, "today we was attacked by Al-Qaeda (otherwise known as Al-CIAda) and we need a war on terror". subliminal messaging in the classic sense isn't even needed any more, they just outright tell us what's good for us and whether we agree or not its shoved down our throats anyways! an example would again be the war in Iraq, millions of people all over the world demonstrated against it but "they" still went ahead with it.
and yet 1 more example would be all the bailouts, no one wanted to bail out the banks and businesses but that didn't stop them.


the point i'm trying to make is this, in the past the peoples consent was needed, so subliminal messaging was one of the tools they used in order to secure that consent, but with the implementation of all these ant-terror acts, laws and legislations they now have the power to do whatever the hell they like...
BTW, who knows about the recent passage of the new climate bill in the US?

this is EXTREMELY disturbing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rPpSdCM ... re=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNT8luhX ... annel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3PrsPHmusw&NR=1



if this wasn't so serious it would be a joke!

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:41 pm
by Thriller
Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:05 pm
by Juliette
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:23 pm
by Thriller
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

No eggs before chickens

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:33 pm
by Juliette
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

No eggs before chickens

You presuppose the existence of a creator-entity? :|

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:43 pm
by Thriller
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

No eggs before chickens

You presuppose the existence of a creator-entity? :|


lol the relationship between reinforcement and behavior is sympathetic

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:53 pm
by Juliette
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

No eggs before chickens

You presuppose the existence of a creator-entity? :|

lol the relationship between reinforcement and behavior is sympathetic

Now where's that Captain's hat I got you some time ago?

Re: For Avenger

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:26 pm
by Thriller
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:
Universe wrote:
Thriller wrote:Hold the presses, possitive and negative reinforcement shapes behavior!!!

No. It doesn't.
Behaviour shapes reinforcement.

:?
*facepalm*

No eggs before chickens

You presuppose the existence of a creator-entity? :|

lol the relationship between reinforcement and behavior is sympathetic

Now where's that Captain's hat I got you some time ago?


I wear a badge now... captain obviouse away!!!