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With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:04 am
by Dmonix
Good morning everyone in the same time zone as me :lol:

I have come up with an idea about the final ascention (According to admin there should only be 25). This general idea has been shot down many times before but this time is different because I'm making it.

The 25th ascention should be known as "The ONE" no "of the ..." at the end just the one and as the name suggests only one person should be able to reach this level. So when say someone reaches 24 and wishes to become 25 not only will they have to reach all the requirements for the ascention but they should also have to descend the current "ONE".

Being descended from The ONE should send you back a level, rather than the 2 week no bonus thing, it should be you lose bonuses for 2 weeks and then once your ascended account is reactivated you are down to the 24th ascention.

Now as there is a possibility of exploiting this ie getting 25 and placing your ascended on vac mode there should be a fixed link between main and ascended accounts ie as long as you main is active you can be descended on ascended server, only when both are on vac can you truely be dormant.

That's my idea, let me know what you think.

~Donald

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 am
by DarkAvenger 666
Sounds like a good idea but what would the cost for the 25th asscension be and is it worth it.The cost most likly will be outrages any way and to be deasended and have to do it all over agen kind of a waste for 1% on Asended Blessing and a cool name. Also its like impossible to deasend most of the players bigger players so one person will get to it and nobody else will ever get it.But it is a good idea to make the game a bit funner but you would have to fix the deasending in asecion so more people have the oppertunity to battle for it.

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:44 am
by FreeSpirit
Hmm i like the ring of it but it will need a lot of tweaking. I say bring it up with Jason

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:51 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
I dunno people wouldn't bother if it ment losing all the costs of actually ascending there... i hear its pretty expensive to ascend while up there lol...

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:58 am
by BenjaminMS
DarkAvenger has got a good point - basically, you cannot descend someone else at such an high spot - unless they do nothing with their ascended accounts of course.
When someone has over 700 or even 800 Max Natural Energy Capacity, they are basically already undescendable - since often you carry an energy absorption of over 50% and an deflection of about 30% or more - being an power that is just nutty to hit.

No - the even above average players are those days already too good to be descended, even when they don't come online for 3 days.

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:31 am
by CABAL
Perhaps something like a 'blood realm' for asc, where you can challenge the current 'ONE' in a 5 day battle which consists of both the material realm and you, yourself.

If the 24th defeats the ONE, the one would have to take off their crown and 'go into hiding' for 2 weeks, while if the ONE wins, the 24th would be 'stripped of rank' and become a 23rd as well as going into hiding for 2 weeks.

So its not descending them through "Assault Directly" but how much damage one can cause to the other, mainly in the material realm

PS (I envy whoever has lvl 2000 repulsion or constitution)

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:33 am
by Sarevok
I actually quite like the idea. It gives something other then rank 1 to work towards, and massers can't easily take you down like on main. Though, i'd recommend making the "The ONE" some sort of delay area for the month after it's released, all realms at 24 could participate in the all out war, or just wait, and attempt once the "The ONE" is decided

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:30 am
by Dmonix
Glad to see the general feel is positive :-D

I've been thinking about the one problem I can see in this and that being the only 1% bonus for the ascentions and I've come up with a point of inspiration.
"The ONE" should get a fixed 75% bonus, if my knowledge is correct24 will have a 48% bonus so that's an 18% increase in stats, or even make all stat +100% with 75% chance of ascended blessing. It would make it a large fight for that position.

But this just highlights the final point of big accounts being practically un-descendable, that's an ascended server thing and I'm not sure what to suggest to fix that but possibly the 2 week battle to take the position could be an idea. Not really sure

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:23 pm
by BenjaminMS
I agree that the reward should be better then usual - but what you suggest now is just too sick :?

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:46 pm
by Reschef
me like the idea too.
Could be 4 "The One"s btw as we have 4 ascended races ;)
(sry if already mentioned above, didn't read every post)

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:36 pm
by Sarevok
Erm, we have infinite ascended races :P just that they must stick to a specific technology tree ;)

Maybe make it not an ascension per say, just that all 24 levels can battle the 25's account to get there, but defiantly a superior power boost is needed to make it worth the fight

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:33 pm
by Dmonix
Reschef wrote:me like the idea too.
Could be 4 "The One"s btw as we have 4 ascended races ;)
(sry if already mentioned above, didn't read every post)


4 ascended races but only 1 person could reach "The ONE" as I said in my original post once you reach that level your "of the ..." should fall away

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:57 am
by Reschef
Sarevok wrote:Erm, we have infinite ascended races :P just that they must stick to a specific technology tree ;)


I'm not spending much time on ascended but I thought it still is Tolah, Ori, Indu and Ajna?!

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:06 am
by Caprila
While it might be amusing for the ascended beings to battle it out tourney style. .like has been said before, with the current mechanics of deascension, it's just not possible.

1 login per day cuts off most deascensions...people who've worked on their account only need to login once a week, if at all.

Perhaps when admin finishes the updates for ascensions, we might find a way of incorporating this. But no, I don't think it's feasible at all.

Re: With Regard to Ascentions

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:35 am
by Sarevok
yeh, current mechanics don't allow this, though i love the idea.

Those aren't races really, their just stereo types, which you pick your personalized race to follow