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my reply at the bottom was off topic, and i also felt a discussion about the decline of America would make a good topic in its own right...

Jack wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:Is it me or have we not lost sight of the original topic, ie the proposed reduction of UK nuclear forces. The proposed reduction of global nuclear arms would also be worthy to note as well folks

Interestingly enough those not signed to the NPT are having very little pressure brought to bear on them, such as Isreal/India/Packistan. Perhaps the NPT has become pointless and the UK should remove itself from the list of signatories and go about our own nuclear defence policies without the interfeance from others

I'd like to see you pressure India to do anything.


People love to worship the Chinese and hail them as the "next America," but reality is if anyone is to dethrone America it would be the Indians.

i think the bankers are doing an excellent Job of "dethroning America" mate. at the recent G20 summit they were openly talking about a new world reserve currency and the end of the dollar. and also, what's happened to Americas industrial heartland?

and dont forget, while Tim Geithner was in China giving Chinese students a lecture about the dollar being safe and would recover, he was laughed at by the students, obviously they weren't as eager to swallow his bull as the rest of the world:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... -safe.html

America is on the decline mate. its a sad fact and you cant deny it.

[spoiler]just so there is no misunderstanding, i dont want ANYONE accusing me or this discussion of being anti-American and i want no anti-American crap coming from anyone else either.[/spoiler]

i changed the title in hopes peeps will discuss the upcoming death of the dollar and the decline of America as a world super power both in economic and military might.

even the aus dollar has reached 90 US cents atm

if our policies continue
Our dollar will be worth less than even the austrailian dollar

What do you mean if your policies continue?

Theyve been going on for 50 years. Land of dreams was under morgage from the get go. Welcome to the real world where people have to live a standard thats actually in accordance to their means US.

It`s gonna be... interesting. Wonder what China will decide to do...