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Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:40 am
by GeneralChaos
So as it stands there are 23 ascensions, and there has been word that there will be a 24th and 25th, i know the costs of ascending up to 23 get huge each time, but for what should be the final 2, the costs should be massive.
I think for the 24th ascension you should need more than just RAW UP and GnR, so....
500k Raw Up
Covert/Anti of at least 32
all MS techs
Also this time when you ascend instead of losing xx UU and xx trained, you should just lose 200mill UU in your account full stop.
The 25th ascension
1mill Raw ( now your thinking its a waste, but really it will stop the yaya im 25 times ascended im the best bla bla, ascending be about time and effort)
Covert/Anti of at least 32
all MS techs
For the final, ( aka LAST ) ascension you lose ALL UU both trained and untrained, it resets your account to 0, no lifers nothing.
You can decide whether you lose your MS or not for the final ascension, i think you should lose it on the final one.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:41 am
by Jim
Ouch. Bit much really. but i see where you are coming from as it would make it a LOT more impressive being 25x ascended. Would put nearly everyone off.
You definatly shouldnt lose your ms though as some people have already put a shed load into that because they thought they could keep it the whole way
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:42 am
by Tropic Thunder
i like it alot

Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:44 am
by Juliette
Then, I presume you're putting something opposite the massive cost of that 25th and final ascension?

Or is your account just reset to 0 and do you start over from scratch, with just a fancy name?
Like 100% AB.. *grin*
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:26 am
by GeneralChaos
Universe wrote:Then, I presume you're putting something opposite the massive cost of that 25th and final ascension?

Or is your account just reset to 0 and do you start over from scratch, with just a fancy name?
Like 100% AB.. *grin*
Im not sure what the total % is when your 23x ascended, its around 56% i think, for the final ascension it could push it up to 75% and leave it at that.
If admin was to make it reset you back to no ascensions all hell would break loose LOL.
You cant make it a 100% AB, else anyone lower than you is screwed.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:30 am
by schuesseled
I think mate, if you pay 1 mil raw u.p for the last ascnesion, you have the right to get 100% AB, if not, 100% AB and 25% 2xAB
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:42 am
by GeneralChaos
schuesseled wrote:I think mate, if you pay 1 mil raw u.p for the last ascnesion, you have the right to get 100% AB, if not, 100% AB and 25% 2xAB
Then what happens when a powerful alliance boosts all there members to the 25th ascension? they become unstoppable, imagine if they all then built a 25trill Defense, when in reality its 50Trill with 100% AB, nothing could stop them.
See this is the problem with the game, most are its all about me me me me me, what do i get, or i want i want i want, why can people not be happy with a title that most in the game will never get, show that your worthy of the title.....
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:45 am
by Juliette
*grin* Nah, I do get your point. It would definitely be something to brag about, GC.

Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:17 pm
by Tekki
While I'm not specifically against it - even though ouchies - I think there should also be an increase in the LF you get from the APP.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:45 pm
by Seaborgium
you can't really go past 23, you can ascend but there's no title. and its rumored that if you do 35 that you start at prior. Demi did #24, he had no title for a while but i think admin reset back to 23, but i don't know
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:08 pm
by GeneralChaos
Seaborgium wrote:you can't really go past 23, you can ascend but there's no title. and its rumored that if you do 35 that you start at prior. Demi did #24, he had no title for a while but i think admin reset back to 23, but i don't know
Admin stated at one of the meets, that there will be 2 more ascensions at a later date added to the game, thus this topic.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:09 pm
by Sarevok
GeneralChaos wrote:schuesseled wrote:I think mate, if you pay 1 mil raw u.p for the last ascnesion, you have the right to get 100% AB, if not, 100% AB and 25% 2xAB
Then what happens when a powerful alliance boosts all there members to the 25th ascension? they become unstoppable, imagine if they all then built a 25trill Defense, when in reality its 50Trill with 100% AB, nothing could stop them.
See this is the problem with the game, most are its all about me me me me me, what do i get, or i want i want i want, why can people not be happy with a title that most in the game will never get, show that your worthy of the title.....
My field of expertise...
Even with 100% blessing, with 25T defense, giving them 50T. You only need 15T to do damage. Half of that, if your willing to take massive losses when you don't AB, you only need about 7.5T attack...
The REAL benefit, is for the strike (since it can't be taken down). Allowing you to build a 10T strike, which is AB every time to 20T, allowing you to mass anyone with a defense of < 60T...
I'm all for the idea of making it a tough ascension, but with a Naq cost for UP alone being 830T naq, then the UU requirements on top of that being something like 60M... It'd better be dam well worth the effort.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:20 pm
by Lore
Seaborgium wrote:you can't really go past 23, you can ascend but there's no title. and its rumored that if you do 35 that you start at prior. Demi did #24, he had no title for a while but i think admin reset back to 23, but i don't know
Demi got 23rd, not 24th. there were only 22 at the time and he broke the game and forced ascention 23.
Admin has stated there will be 2 more, but also said it would stay at 25 for "some time" not indefinitely.
I agree with the high costs, but really its pointless. Even with the cost you mention in the 25th ascention, people will store resources on others accounts, alliances will band together, and the 25 time ascender will be at the raid limit inside him ascention PPT ending. Everyone knows it same as I do.
Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:46 pm
by Stampeda
to much , and to much in power ... lets not over-reactin acsension will we not that it aint a good suggestion but this defently wouldn't be a good thing for this game

Re: Last 2 ascensions
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:23 pm
by BenjaminMS
GC, although it is pretty heavy - I agree with you. However, the last one about losing all the UU - probs is that people will bring a crapload of UU away then. Make it then 50% higher or so then the one previous one...
In general, I agree with it - although it is relative heavy to do, (certainly the ones above AG) ascensions were never meant to do speedy, but to a hard task which you pay for and difficult to recover from.