Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

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Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

User: Haz
Mod: knight37
Post in question: SGW Cybering (I believe knight37 has posted the content of the topic into a mod only section, as he referenced it in our msn convo)

Ok, so ages back I made a post to the "IRC section" of the forums, for laughs, on an "SGW cybering" topic (using SGW terms with innuendo)... recently been having a discussion on msn with many SGW users about random stuff... the topic turned to that post, i posted a link to it.

Minutes later the link is reposted and I find that knight37 (one of the mods who was in the msn convo) has edited the post because it wasn't PG-13. We argued it over msn, with me asking him to point out which rule the post has "supposedly" broken, since I couldnt see any rule based on PG-13 content. I assumed it was based on the Pornographic rule...and told him that its hardly pornographic and anyone being "aroused" by it (per the definition of the pornographic rule) would be seriously weird.... and he tells me its not based on that rule.

He tells me it is based on the profanity rule.

b. Profanity
The use of profanity on the SGW forums is prohibited at all times. This means swearing, cursing and vulgarity. This includes the use of masking. SGW is a family orientated game and as such the language used must be suitable for children.


I noted that the topic is not profane, and therefore the edit was unjustified.

He then tells me the forum is to be PG-13, based on Jason telling mods that. I searched and could not find anything in the written rules which mentioned PG-13 content.

He then tells me its an unwritten rule.

I noted that the IRC section mod had posted, and also another mod had also posted in the topic, yet done nothing about it.

Also, another user in the msn convo agreed with me, saying the topic was humorous, yet not sexual, and even pointed out that far worse innuendo posts were posted in the "Epic Msn Posts" thread in "This, That, Those" without edit/warning, with and even mentioned little kids not getting the innuendos....and if they did, that they arent "so little after all".

Many mods and even a current admin (Earandil) posted in the "Epic msn posts" topic with far worse innuendo than what my post contained, yet wasn't touched by any of them to filter out any innuendo.

There was more to the argument, but this is where my argument lies.

If a post is to be edited, it should be based on a written rule, not some unwritten rule which a normal user (ie myself) would not know.

I believe the edit was unjustified and unfair, as far worse has been obviously seen by mods and no action taken upon it.

Also I could not have possibly known about an unwritten rule, along with many other members of the SGW community. How are we supposed to follow rules which we don't even know about?

For this topic, I wish to have it either unedited, or to be told the exact written rule which was broken, and/or how it is justified that the topic be edited.

I have no problem with the post being edited if it is justified, but I do have a problem when a post is edited for an unwritten rule.
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PS I know that some of the information I included may be irrelevant, but I wished to include as much information as I could.
Formerly known as Haz

Nine out of ten doctors recommend going to an amusement park this weekend.
The Tenth Doctor doesn't want to go.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

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**warning** it is not PG-13
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Re: Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

As I said in our MSN convo, where is said "PG-13" rule?
Formerly known as Haz

Nine out of ten doctors recommend going to an amusement park this weekend.
The Tenth Doctor doesn't want to go.
Spoiler
CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

Haz wrote:As I said in our MSN convo, where is said "PG-13" rule?


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Re: Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

Still doesnt say about a PG-13 rule?

That just says what we already know....kids and adults play the game,

Content was game related, I dont really consider it inappropriate, especially compared to what has been posted elsewhere (ie Epic Msn Post thread), not soft or hard porn.
Formerly known as Haz

Nine out of ten doctors recommend going to an amusement park this weekend.
The Tenth Doctor doesn't want to go.
Spoiler
CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Post edit on one of my posts, based on an "unwritten rule"

since i had a couple minutes to spare i might aswell reply.

haz, i have read trough everything and all i can say is yes it's a funny msn convo but everyone can see the double meaning of it all. now knight was only doing his job when dumping it.

yes it is not directly said that it's PG-13 but the PG-13 guidlines were enforced a while back. and i think most ppl who read the post from a mod prespective will see that it's not apropriate for a family game. there are young ppl playing this game.

to me knight made the right call.
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