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Kill Bug

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:41 pm
by qacol
Was massing this player and they had no uu lost for most hits.

21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,207,268,909,722 255,846,532,079 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,218,034,915,524 230,261,878,871 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,768,610,778,657 237,937,274,833 details
21:36 DEMI 208,594,587 Naquadah stolen 15 59,996 13,088 2,309,570,461,257 302,673,306,419 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,851,546,717,401 290,444,081,917 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,286,007,184,880 299,616,000,293 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,327,867,465,298 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,593,998,570,941 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 1,046,201,958 Naquadah stolen 15 61,105 15,151 2,339,102,039,697 353,475,626,778 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,391,230,497,292 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,955,175,839,250 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 4,020,951,877,560 364,187,009,408 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,734,181,458,011 357,046,087,655 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,386,297,628,752 339,193,783,272 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,389,095,257,985 339,193,783,272 details
21:35 DEMI 24,540,539,737 Naquadah stolen 15 62,237 16,290 2,478,780,614,415 401,030,027,026 details

They took wepon damAGE BUT NOT UU LOSS.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:42 pm
by qacol
More hits

21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,983,080,964,803 3 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,460,534,668,070 3 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,376,113,635,571 3 details
21:36 DEMI 107 Naquadah stolen 15 53,797 0 2,432,743,722,628 3 details

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:30 pm
by Sarevok
Can you post some basic stats? And was that an Asgard getting the hologram tech?

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:00 pm
by Join me
DEMI
Sacred Ascender
[ The Think Tank - Plasma]
The UnKnown of the INDU

not asguard...
that was my first thought too...

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:12 am
by Clarkey
qacol wrote:Was massing this player and they had no uu lost for most hits.

21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,207,268,909,722 255,846,532,079 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,218,034,915,524 230,261,878,871 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,768,610,778,657 237,937,274,833 details
21:36 DEMI 208,594,587 Naquadah stolen 15 59,996 13,088 2,309,570,461,257 302,673,306,419 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,851,546,717,401 290,444,081,917 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,286,007,184,880 299,616,000,293 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,327,867,465,298 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,593,998,570,941 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 1,046,201,958 Naquadah stolen 15 61,105 15,151 2,339,102,039,697 353,475,626,778 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,391,230,497,292 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,955,175,839,250 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 4,020,951,877,560 364,187,009,408 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,734,181,458,011 357,046,087,655 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,386,297,628,752 339,193,783,272 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,389,095,257,985 339,193,783,272 details
21:35 DEMI 24,540,539,737 Naquadah stolen 15 62,237 16,290 2,478,780,614,415 401,030,027,026 details

They took wepon damAGE BUT NOT UU LOSS.

I may have a possible answer to this mystery as I know DEMI and I know what his account has been through.

His account is a Tollan which would have pre-ascension been Tauri.
Tauri as an unascended race get the "quick retreat" or whatever it is called special bonus right? Meaning they can quickly strike and return uninjured.

I believe you lose this when ascending right?

So when DEMI was at lvl #23 ascension after the new race updates he messed around with the race updates knowing that he would lose his ascension/title thing as a result of it. However the game states that you can easily re-ascend back to your former lvl, i.e. #23.

Which DEMI tried to do. However because the ascensions are 100% capped now at #23 the option for him to ascend i.e. the ascension button, did not appear because it considered him still at cap. Therefore the game bug prevented him from being able to revert back to his #23 ascension. That was a bug.

Therefore Jason fixed that bug to allow him to revert back.

Now what i am thinking here is that in all the 90+ attacks that Qacol carried out on DEMI, DEMI got 0 AB from his account. Now at lvl #23 the AB is large and in my experience i have had AB kick in at least 8 times in a row.

Now looking at the attacks listed above it looks possible that the hits where there are 0 army loses could potentially be the AB kicking in, however, because his account may be bugged, the game may think (bonus wise) that he is not ascended therefore instead of using AB it uses the "quick retreat" bonus that an unascended Tauri gets?

A wacky theory i know, but it's the only logical thing i can come up with knowing what i know from DEMI's account.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:37 am
by GeneralChaos
Either way its a bug, and needs to be fixed, for aslong as it remains it gives this person a clear advantage over anyone else.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:32 am
by Sarevok
Dean Winchester wrote:
qacol wrote:Was massing this player and they had no uu lost for most hits.

21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,207,268,909,722 255,846,532,079 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,218,034,915,524 230,261,878,871 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,768,610,778,657 237,937,274,833 details
21:36 DEMI 208,594,587 Naquadah stolen 15 59,996 13,088 2,309,570,461,257 302,673,306,419 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,851,546,717,401 290,444,081,917 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,286,007,184,880 299,616,000,293 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,327,867,465,298 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,593,998,570,941 281,272,163,540 details
21:36 DEMI 1,046,201,958 Naquadah stolen 15 61,105 15,151 2,339,102,039,697 353,475,626,778 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,391,230,497,292 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,955,175,839,250 349,905,165,902 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 4,020,951,877,560 364,187,009,408 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 3,734,181,458,011 357,046,087,655 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,386,297,628,752 339,193,783,272 details
21:36 DEMI 0 Naquadah stolen 15 0 0 2,389,095,257,985 339,193,783,272 details
21:35 DEMI 24,540,539,737 Naquadah stolen 15 62,237 16,290 2,478,780,614,415 401,030,027,026 details

They took wepon damAGE BUT NOT UU LOSS.

I may have a possible answer to this mystery as I know DEMI and I know what his account has been through.

His account is a Tollan which would have pre-ascension been Tauri.
Tauri as an unascended race get the "quick retreat" or whatever it is called special bonus right? Meaning they can quickly strike and return uninjured.

I believe you lose this when ascending right?

So when DEMI was at lvl #23 ascension after the new race updates he messed around with the race updates knowing that he would lose his ascension/title thing as a result of it. However the game states that you can easily re-ascend back to your former lvl, i.e. #23.

Which DEMI tried to do. However because the ascensions are 100% capped now at #23 the option for him to ascend i.e. the ascension button, did not appear because it considered him still at cap. Therefore the game bug prevented him from being able to revert back to his #23 ascension. That was a bug.

Therefore Jason fixed that bug to allow him to revert back.

Now what i am thinking here is that in all the 90+ attacks that Qacol carried out on DEMI, DEMI got 0 AB from his account. Now at lvl #23 the AB is large and in my experience i have had AB kick in at least 8 times in a row.

Now looking at the attacks listed above it looks possible that the hits where there are 0 army loses could potentially be the AB kicking in, however, because his account may be bugged, the game may think (bonus wise) that he is not ascended therefore instead of using AB it uses the "quick retreat" bonus that an unascended Tauri gets?

A wacky theory i know, but it's the only logical thing i can come up with knowing what i know from DEMI's account.

Well thought out. Except Qacol was attacking Demi, not Demi attacking him. And the Tauri ability only works when attacking someone else. If he was initially Asgard, this could defiantly be a possibility

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:39 am
by Clarkey
Sarevok wrote:Well thought out. Except Qacol was attacking Demi, not Demi attacking him. And the Tauri ability only works when attacking someone else. If he was initially Asgard, this could defiantly be a possibility

Maybe, but the whole point of a bug is that it's a bug where things don't quite go right.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:49 am
by Sarevok
Dean Winchester wrote:
Sarevok wrote:Well thought out. Except Qacol was attacking Demi, not Demi attacking him. And the Tauri ability only works when attacking someone else. If he was initially Asgard, this could defiantly be a possibility

Maybe, but the whole point of a bug is that it's a bug where things don't quite go right.

Tis true. Who's to say how the game got confused.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 am
by D E M I
I explained my situation to clarkey here. He is right, he knows I have had a rough time with my account in 2009.

I always thought when raiding/farming that I was just unlucky when it came to ascended blessings.

Good job wording that Clarkey.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:49 am
by Sarevok
Tetrismonkey wrote:
D E M I wrote:I explained my situation to clarkey here. He is right, he knows I have had a rough time with my account in 2009.

I always thought when raiding/farming that I was just unlucky when it came to ascended blessings.

Good job wording that Clarkey.



Lol

Always breaking the game arn't you Demi?

I hope Admin doesn't fix it, for the sake that you will have the best damn account on the game!

Mmm, i dunno about that. Once the weapons are gone, the enemy takes no losses also.

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:50 am
by Join me
is no UU losses better than ascended blessings?
hmm,,, dont think thats why they ascended 23 times :)

Good luck either way

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:53 am
by moses
if i never lost units i would never stop atacking and would not worry about being atacked back defense weps there cheep and easy to buy

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:54 am
by minisaiyan
can i ac you, just to test :P

Re: Kill Bug

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:27 pm
by Lithium
almost impossible to mass that account , tried mass/ac waste of at's