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Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:28 am
by Calibretto
I was farming a bit today. Saw someone that attracted my attention.
He was in pergatory with an armysize over 62 million...

How is that possible?

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:35 am
by Tropic Thunder
Maybe it hasn't gone past the turn change, then before turn change sold mercs, then rebought or something?

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:57 am
by Juliette
Hm, seems fine.

updates.php / long ago wrote:The maximum size realm that can enter pergatory is 20% of the 'unit maximum' before the plague strikes (you can see this value on your personelle summary&training page - it increases with time..).
If you are above 30% of this value, and in pergatory, you will be automatically removed.

train.php wrote:(note: if you total population size is greater than 466,849,315 disease will surely strike your lands. Above 350,136,986 and raiding is no longer possible. Above 233,424,658 and trading/buying units no longer possible. Pergatory is not accessible above 46,684,932)


Since entry max is obviously not 20% anymore but 10%, the kick-limit is 15%.
15% of 466,849,315 = 70,027,397

62m is *well* within that range.

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:02 am
by Calibretto
Ah ok, thx Radiance, clears things up.

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:46 am
by wasmguy
updates.php / long ago wrote:The maximum size realm that can enter pergatory is 20% of the 'unit maximum' before the plague strikes (you can see this value on your personelle summary&training page - it increases with time..).
If you are above 30% of this value, and in pergatory, you will be automatically removed.


Since been changed to 10%

train.php wrote:(note: if you total population size is greater than 466,849,315 disease will surely strike your lands. Above 350,136,986 and raiding is no longer possible. Above 233,424,658 and trading/buying units no longer possible. Pergatory is not accessible above 46,684,932)


46,684,932 x 1.3 = 60,690,411

I think you kicked on your next log in if your growth takes you over the limit. So this guy probably hasn't logged in for a while and has over 2 mill UU out.

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:55 am
by GeneralChaos
So let me get this right you can sit in safety until your 70mill armysize, is it any wonder we are seeing people in the top 10 in perg, with only 60 AT's against you in a day from any target, you can have massive planets 1.5trill def, and there never getting removed, build an off the chart def, and its never being massed.

mmmmm sell off go to perg get 10 x 240bill income planets, and build a 20trill def, and sit happy happy.

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:35 am
by Juliette
wasmguy wrote:
updates.php / long ago wrote:The maximum size realm that can enter pergatory is 20% of the 'unit maximum' before the plague strikes (you can see this value on your personelle summary&training page - it increases with time..).
If you are above 30% of this value, and in pergatory, you will be automatically removed.


Since been changed to 10%

train.php wrote:(note: if you total population size is greater than 466,849,315 disease will surely strike your lands. Above 350,136,986 and raiding is no longer possible. Above 233,424,658 and trading/buying units no longer possible. Pergatory is not accessible above 46,684,932)


46,684,932 x 1.3 = 60,690,411

I think you kicked on your next log in if your growth takes you over the limit. So this guy probably hasn't logged in for a while and has over 2 mill UU out.

:-k
So you and I interpret "If you are above 30% of this value" differently.
You see it as 30% above 10% of plague, whereas I read that simply as 30% of plague (and halved that, since the entry was halved too).

Easy way to see whether you're right; do people get kicked from perg in between logins? :)


GeneralChaos wrote:So let me get this right you can sit in safety until your 70mill armysize, is it any wonder we are seeing people in the top 10 in perg, with only 60 AT's against you in a day from any target, you can have massive planets 1.5trill def, and there never getting removed, build an off the chart def, and its never being massed.

mmmmm sell off go to perg get 10 x 240bill income planets, and build a 20trill def, and sit happy happy.
Yup, that's the idea. Invest all that shiny naq into your account itself, and you'll be home free.

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:31 pm
by wasmguy
Radiance wrote::-k
So you and I interpret "If you are above 30% of this value" differently.
You see it as 30% above 10% of plague, whereas I read that simply as 30% of plague (and halved that, since the entry was halved too).

Easy way to see whether you're right; do people get kicked from perg in between logins? :)


It is definately 13% of plague or around 60 mil total army size. I have been kicked out in the past around that mark ](*,) . But I didnt take too much notice at what point I was kicked, if it was on login or if it was before (you get a message upon being booted that you could check against), but I think it was on login.

I will see if there is anyone that wants to test it out next time they go back to norm :)

I found the guy with the oversize army (on my farm list) and have spied him. He has 5k ATs, half damaged defence weapons and over 5 mil UU out. Pretty safe to say he hasnt logged in for a while

Re: Max armysize in Pergatory Realm

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:44 pm
by numbers
yer ive personally let my self not log in for 10 days once i was 100k uu under cap...why so i could go to nrom with an extra 10mil uu

u dont get booted from perg till u log in next or if u are currently online and raiding or something

and limit is entry * 1.3
ie 30% more then 46,698,630)

=
60,708,219

well least thats how i been doing it :lol: