something has GOT to be done about this

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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

wasmguy wrote:Now let me get this right.

You want progress in the game. I am not against that, in fact I am all for it.

But your MAIN gripe seems to be just a classic case of tall poppy syndrome. We work within the strict restrictions imposed on us. If people in norm with their limitless resources cannot maintain rank above us how is that our problem? With our limited army size and limited farming it says something about the game in general, not about perg.

If you want us to have competition, how about setting up an alliance of your own? There are plenty (more than we could handle) of experienced players in perg with decent accounts that you could recruit.

You complain it is too hard for new players to gain glory. There are around 150 people in GnR range currently in perg, a little over 10% and out of that probably 20 (at the most) are not looking to ascend anytime soon. So I ask you this, how many players are there in norm, with their limitless resources, are doing the same thing? While yes, individually they may not be in the top 2% all the time, but as a whole they are taking up a positions that you so desperately want for the newer players.

The biggest problem is that the small players often fall prey to the big for simple fact they are new. They put all their resources into their army trying to get GnR only to get massed because someone simply didnt like them building stats with nothing else. Or another classic reason they farmed someone who had been massed and still didnt have a defence. How lame is that.

We are not going around mindlessly bashing small accounts simply because we can as what constantly happening in norm. We are not harassing people because we can. About all we do is farm an fight others who have imposed themselves upon us. We leave others be generally to grow and ascend as they see fit. Heck, in the last little battle we had, we left out the members of the alliance who were ascending and wanted no part in it

This is a suggestions topic so how about some suggestions instead of this constant whinging.

How about you cant attack someone who is 1/5 your size?

How about no glory for perg?

How about setting up a seperate ranking system for perg?

How about a turn limit on attacking new players in their first 3-6 months?

How about giving new players more untradable resources to get them going?

How about a mentoring system?

How about an automatic ingame PM for new players with a link to the FAQ section of the forums?

How about something to fix the game in general rather than the perceived problem with perg?

How about suggesting something constructive to help new players (if thats what you are really worried about) rather than just complaining about perg?

P.S. How many officers do you have at the moment that you are trying to help?



Well I was in perg and you guys started setting me to war, anyone could see I was active and that I was unascended, it would of been obvious that I was in the process of ascending (well in fact I was trying to get 1k g and r points for market supporter status if truth be it).

Woke one morning and I was massed, what you said does not sound like you were doing me a favor.

How would you suppose someone gets to G and R range in a relatively timely manner without, what is in your alliances eyes not requiring a massing.

I spoke to someone whom you dont like earlier today, said that one of the reasons your alliance took to becoming so strong was because you didnt like the way perg was to allow them to reach a high rank.

Humbug, my favorit saying comes into play here "You have become what you despised so much" (if what I have been told is true(disclaimer there lol))

Why dont you just leave people be, farm, fair enough but with only 60 attacks allowed by one person on another when your aliance has the ability to give 28x60 there is no way anyone can take it to you as you can oblitorate anyone in one day

Fact is you do what you do because you can.

No one will be able to build up against your alliance of 28 and be strong enough to take you on, so that wont happen.

The best anyone can do is dont have any def so they dont have any attack units to kill and in the end they will either have to build up a def and kill each other to lower their army size or fall into main, which is what happend to me, found a raid target and raided to many LOL and fell out of existance.
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

indeed but u forget people could just send excess spies to lower army ;)

honestly i dont think there is many suggestions that havent already been noted in previous discussions..as there will always be a way around limitations :-k
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

Probably true.

But what about the idea of being able to attack/sab between them. But at a severe limited rate.
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

and wasmguy, i apologize i forgot to reply to the last part: i have 2 highly active officers i help VERY much, one who's currently inactive, who i ALSO helped VERY much, and a 4th who is a close RL friend who's on vac atm, who i also helped VERY much. all in all, i've helped raise my 4 current officers UPs well over 1mill/day, totalling all of the gains in each's UPs.

i DO help those smaller/younger players by teaching them the fundamentals and giving them naq and units and finding them proper planets, but i can only do so much as far as that's concerned.
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

This thread is made of fail.

There are no suggestions. People just talking big, or complaining about being farmed.

FFS, I will make something perfectly clear. You're complaining about a freaken war game.

If you don't like fighting, go play the Sims for all I care. Don't complain about people attacking other players in what is called "GateWARS"

It is ridiculously easy to ascend in this game, GnR is spread out enough that new players can start getting GnR in norm in about 1-2 weeks with guidance.

Someone PM me when a constructive thread about perg is created.

BleedinBlue. I don't like you.

Edit: You have a 53 mil army size....god you're full of it. Didn't you say "do what's right, when you have 50+ mil army size you should leave"?
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

It is said over and over again that Perg is there for those who want a slower game rate.

All of Maelstrom Like the playrate in perg, where there isn't the possibility to have your account zeroed one morning when you wake up.


The reason People set war in perg is to get all of the naq when attacking or UU when raid.
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

@sylus: you can not like me all you want, i really could care less. yes, im 53mill. that's why i am leaving. i havent had any raid/farm activity in 3 days so i CAN leave, but it requires 5 days worth of turns. all in all, ive been in perg fro a little over a week for a little uninhibited rapid growth. find out things before you talk please.

i just suggest an auto boot once you reach a certain size, maybe 50-60mill
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

https://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=158763&p=1978369#p1978369

Here you go. Why not read what others say in other threads before mindlessly complaining.

Just an idea.
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Re: something has GOT to be done about this

Since discussing the topic at hand is not possible. And everyone want to bicker about each others playing styles...
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