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Limits on suporter status
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:40 am
by forgive_me
i wass going along the rank just now and saw somenting quite deturbing....fox didn had as much units as it had....now the units war at someone else....well this is verry anoyng...its like "ckeap the 20k units while im asleep...ul hive them back to me in the morning..." <= just an exaple.......well with this in mine i think that suporter status facilitis shod be limited as the recruting on unike link was......
i propose that a user woud only be able to accept 100 units/day(in total) and 200k naq.......now with no limits units and naq are fling from user to user......this meens that no way a simple player coud get in top ranks if he hasent a lot of suporters baking him......
so wath abouth that...limit suporter status receives of units and naq/day?......suporter status user are defenetly gone say NO.....
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:11 am
by I Replicate
I am not a supporter, and I still say no.
You do not know how Fox got an increase in units. He could have bought a lot of mercenaries, and I'm sure his unit production is fairly high, and recruitment link clicks are already limited to 50 clicks per day.
I dont want to flame, but limiting supporter bonuses is not how to deal with any problems. The main problem that needs to be solved is what Elusive did to get up the ranks (buy his way there) and not how Fox got up the ranks (lots of friends.) Making friends and working together is part of the game. It should not be limited
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:23 am
by forgive_me
I Replicate wrote:I am not a supporter, and I still say no.
You do not know how Fox got an increase in units. He could have bought a lot of mercenaries, and I'm sure his unit production is fairly high, and recruitment link clicks are already limited to 50 clicks per day.
I dont want to flame, but limiting supporter bonuses is not how to deal with any problems. The main problem that needs to be solved is what Elusive did to get up the ranks (buy his way there) and not how Fox got up the ranks (lots of friends.) Making friends and working together is part of the game. It should not be limited
well this is the problem he didnt by mercs....i garenty for that...he gad about 4-5k donated units from his aliace...and it wass all done with this suported status ...so he actualy bouth his way to....he didnt payd for it others did...but he didnt playd to get there...
and he only got to rank 1 because he sabd the persons that warr higer in rank then him at attack and defence.....so he got in the top practacly WITH MONEY not naq........all the top 10 are suporter status...at least there warr the last time i loked...now it dosent show suported status.......
this donating naq and units shoud be limited...some people abuse of this capacity very much...and its a BOUTH thing...u dont play...u pay... to get it....
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:31 am
by I Replicate
forgive_me wrote:and he only got to rank 1 because he sabd the persons that warr higer in rank then him at attack and defence.....so he got in the top practacly WITH MONEY not naq........all the top 10 are suporter status...at least there warr the last time i loked...now it dosent show suported status.......
Okay, lets say he didnt buy mercs.
First of all, sabotaging others to get to ranks one is how your supposed to do it, nothing wrong there.
Next, supporter status is supposed to give an advantage. Maybe there should be a limit, but Fox did not buy his way to the top. Others paid money to get the ability to transfer units once. I doubt that they keep spending $20 just to feed fox. They probably just have a high unit production, and give fox some of the units they make everyday. That is not getting to the top through money. Getting your way to the top through money would mean people keep spending money and sending those to Fox, and I doubt that is whats happening.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:52 am
by forgive_me
I Replicate wrote:Okay, lets say he didnt buy mercs.
First of all, sabotaging others to get to ranks one is how your supposed to do it, nothing wrong there.
Next, supporter status is supposed to give an advantage. Maybe there should be a limit, but Fox did not buy his way to the top. Others paid money to get the ability to transfer units once. I doubt that they keep spending $20 just to feed fox. They probably just have a high unit production, and give fox some of the units they make everyday. That is not getting to the top through money. Getting your way to the top through money would mean people keep spending money and sending those to Fox, and I doubt that is whats happening.
i dont care haw fox got on top....he is just an example of unit donation pushed to the limit.....he got 5k soldairs....for a simple user to get 5k units(donated) with 50clicks/day it will take 100 days...so haw is this balenced...????????....the suporter status shoud NOT debalince the game....and curently it dose......do u understand now...?
EDIT: u only need to donate onece to get the transer posibility...u dont donate onece and the thing is done.....at least that is wath i know....so u pay onece 20$ and transfer every day 50 units to a player...and if 10 donate to that player then wath hapens......its no posible way to reach them..........
wath i proposed its not a elimination but a limitation of units/naq able to got by a user frue this method......someting resonable...2-3 times the click limit....so the game woud be more balenced....
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:58 am
by I Replicate
You just restated what I said in your edit, but whatever. I've always understood what your trying to say, but just dont agree with it.
It is possible that it is not fair, but the whole reason it was done was to get rid of Elusive and kick him down some ranks, and to keep it that way.
There are many unblanced aspects, all of which need to be fixed, and I'm sure they will be fixed. Once there is a limit on contributions, Elusive will no longer ever be able to get to rank 1, and those people donating to Fox will probably start builing up themselves.
While Fox may be gaining lots of power, those people donating to him are loosing lots of power. While it does put one guy ahead, the overall balance of the game remains the same. This is different than buying units like you said in your orignial post.
I guess the reason I dont agree with you, among many reasons, is that you stated this is gaining power with money. That is untrue. It is gaining power through a problem with supporter bonuses. Gaining power "practicly WITH MONEY" is a little different. (Money=Elusive; Friends=Fox)
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:58 am
by BombedDeer
Holy crap learn how to spell.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:52 pm
by Saturnine
BombedDeer wrote:Holy crap learn how to spell.
Many players speak english as a second language, It is possibly the most difficult language to learn in the world! (Next to chinese I would think)
So who cares how they spell???? I aplaude the fact that they choose to write in english! A lazy american such as myself with little understanding of french and spanish(of the south american/mexican variety) is greatful they are stooping to my level! Not saying that I replicate or forgive me are foreign, BUT- before you start posting a reply like this in other forums you should consider the fact!
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:55 pm
by myFriend
forgive_me may be you did not know this but admin needs $$ to work on SGW and get new servers. So he asked for a donation but us being human don't just give our money away with out getting some thing back, so to solve this problem he did the perks. And now you want to limit the perks, that would most likely make every supporter rally made and admin would get allot of hate mail. and I truly believe fox has a rally high unit production. And what makes you so sure that he did not buy mercs?
O and plz plz run SPELL CHECK if you have a pc you can use Microsoft word or word perfect. Or if English is not your main language then go to goggle and look for a web site to translate your post (and yes i know what it is like not to be a perfect speller that is y I use Microsoft word)
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:08 pm
by Saturnine
You are right about the supporter status. I just donated, and wouldn't have done so if there was nothing to gain. If they turn the benefits to crap, no one would donate. Do you folks really want to start paying for this? They would make a fortune! (to give to MGM) But the generousity of it all by making "donations" is what counts the most!
My mother, and 2 nephews are dyslexic. I dont think any one is as concerned with grammar or spelling as much as we might think, maybe I'm wrong? Every one is human! I quess it matters more what they are trying to say! If one has doubts that their post could be un-decypherable jargon, maybe they should spell/grammar check it. Just for the sake of transmitting a clear idea
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:20 pm
by Sleipnir
What can your brain decipher? Take a look at this paragraph and find out just how amaing your brain is!
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was raednig!
THE PAOMNNEHAL PWEOR OF THE HMUAN MNID! Aoccdrnig to rscheearch cmopleetd at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod aearpr, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Amzanig isn't it?
Translation I couldn't believe that I could actually understand what I was reading!
The phenominal power of the human mind! According to research completed at Cambridge University, it doesn't matter in what order the letters in a word appear, the only important thing is that the first and last letter are in the right place. The rest can be a total mess and you can still read it without a problem. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole.
Amazing isn't it?
Spelling isn't as important as some people around here seem to believe.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:25 pm
by myFriend
i am not to mad at him its just that most of the words were not feneticly (<--I just killed that word) correct I am going to take a stab at this and say "forgive_me" is A)German B) French C)Spanish or D) check republic (not likely cuz he uses the 's' for words that are plural
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:59 pm
by forgive_me
BombedDeer wrote:Holy crap learn how to spell.
jet ma fraiere.....is this corect?
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:09 pm
by forgive_me
myFriend wrote:forgive_me may be you did not know this but admin needs $$ to work on SGW and get new servers. So he asked for a donation but us being human don't just give our money away with out getting some thing back, so to solve this problem he did the perks. And now you want to limit the perks, that would most likely make every supporter rally made and admin would get allot of hate mail. and I truly believe fox has a rally high unit production. And what makes you so sure that he did not buy mercs?
i sad this like 3 times now....i dont want donations to stop...u dont understand wath i am saing ...THIS WONT AFFECT THE SUPORTERS....just the players that get donations from the suporters....GOT IT?...and i know he didnt got mercs because wen he had 12k units i spyd on him and apophis...they both had the majority(over 70%) units...not mercs....understand?
myFriend wrote:O and plz plz run SPELL CHECK if you have a pc you can use Microsoft word or word perfect. Or if English is not your main language then go to goggle and look for a web site to translate your post (and yes i know what it is like not to be a perfect speller that is y I use Microsoft word)
well haw do u use
MICROSOFT word on
RedHat linux??...tell me a way and il give u anything u want.......
P.S. If only one persons posts include comments on anyones english they have a personalsab from me...ingame...and then i will only post in my languege....il see if u understand....speler
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:19 pm
by forgive_me
myFriend wrote:i am not to mad at him its just that most of the words were not feneticly (<--I just killed that word) correct I am going to take a stab at this and say "forgive_me" is A)German B) French C)Spanish or D) check republic (not likely cuz he uses the 's' for words that are plural
im neder one of them...but the last contry is close to mine....
....as i sad...stick tothe subject....or get sabd....if there are no rules about coments made to a user by a nother user than i will do wath i do best.....
as i sad....the change wont evect the suporter...but all the user...as nowan woud be able to abuse this help....it is help its not a method of play.......at least that wass it sopose to be...