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Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:36 am**

where exact is there offensive language

Casshern

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so were all the others warned as well and since i was talking about a defence its whomever read it that read it off topic

Sent: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:27 pm
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Offensive Bias

Message subject: Board warning issued
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The following is a warning which has been issued to you by an administrator or moderator of this site.
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Breaks rules.
Section 5.b/c

This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: viewtopic.php?f=62&p=2008396#p2008396 .

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harchester wrote:
qacol wrote:
~Qacol~
I can go all night can you

thats not what your wife says

your partner says you have to put it up first before you can comment

Sent: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:28 pm
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Rules Broken:
5. Language
b. > Profanity.
c. > Abuse / Racism

there is no offensive language abuse or racism in my post. I was talking about a def and commenting on harch return. I will accept the warning if the mod can show me exactly where I used offensive language and it was not just his own over reaction and reading of the post that cause the warning. I was talking about a def and it's not the first or last time I will comment on the players inability to do anything worthwhile ingame

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it smacks of overreaction of a mod forcing his values on people where while its public free speech is still allowed once profanity abuse or racism is not used. Would also say that a permanent warning on my record is excessive and pm asking me to get rid of it would be more appropriate since I have never had any problem on this forum

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:11 am**

same goes as for the other topic, i'm gonna let this one sink in first before commenting

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:53 am**

Yeah, sorry about that, Cas. I am trying to get promoted to Knighthood in the Order of Morality.
I was too busy trying to convert you to my radical a-sexual faith to consider the option that you might have meant a defence.
After all, that would have been the logical semantical value of your remark.

Absolutely! Now that you have opened my eyes to the truth, I will burn my holy books and tattoo a peace sign on my forehead.

Oh god, I wish I could take it all back.. all of it! Forgive me!

Now that we've said sorry and shook hands, you can go suck and nibble on that delicious popsicle, Cas. Didn't your daddy just give you one? You definitely know how to put it up, or so your partner told me last night.

[spoiler]I rest my case.
Funny how refreshingly new the focus of this complaint is.
Bias m8![/spoiler]

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:41 pm**

Offensive Bias wrote:Yeah, sorry about that, Cas. I am trying to get promoted to Knighthood in the Order of Morality.
I was too busy trying to convert you to my radical a-sexual faith to consider the option that you might have meant a defence.
After all, that would have been the logical semantical value of your remark. Absolutely! Now that you have opened my eyes to the truth, I will burn my holy books and tattoo a peace sign on my forehead.

Oh god, I wish I could take it all back.. all of it! Forgive me!

Now that we've said sorry and shook hands, you can go suck and nibble on that delicious popsicle, Cas. Didn't your daddy just give you one? You definitely know how to put it up, or so your partner told me last night.

[spoiler]I rest my case.
Funny how refreshingly new the focus of this complaint is.
Bias m8![/spoiler]

Sorry to interupt... but does your consistency in modding demand that you warn yourself for the above bolded part? :-k

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:57 pm**

xXxsephirothxXx wrote:
Offensive Bias wrote:Yeah, sorry about that, Cas. I am trying to get promoted to Knighthood in the Order of Morality.
I was too busy trying to convert you to my radical a-sexual faith to consider the option that you might have meant a defence.
After all, that would have been the logical semantical value of your remark. Absolutely! Now that you have opened my eyes to the truth, I will burn my holy books and tattoo a peace sign on my forehead.

Oh god, I wish I could take it all back.. all of it! Forgive me!

Now that we've said sorry and shook hands, you can go suck and nibble on that delicious popsicle, Cas. Didn't your daddy just give you one? You definitely know how to put it up, or so your partner told me last night.

[spoiler]I rest my case.
Funny how refreshingly new the focus of this complaint is.
Bias m8![/spoiler]

Sorry to interupt... but does your consistency in modding demand that you warn yourself for the above bolded part?

Now why would I do that? Didn't Casshern's interpretation of the rules allow such comments to be made?

As you can see, I illustrate the ridiculousness of allowing the masses to dictate the rules. (*sigh* If that wasn't clear from the "I rest my case" in the spoiler..) After all, if I just mean to tell Casshern what I told him, without the apparently warnable meaning you suggest it has, why should I be warned? Am I not just talking about popsicles? :oops:

My point is that while it may be entirely appropriate for the poster, it has an offensive sound/meaning to those who read my post. Now if you were a 12 year old, I would have poisoned your mind with those comments, regardless of how I meant them.

Had I posted this elsewhere, I would have had to warn myself / let myself be warned by other mods. It is WAY out of line, if you read it as the uninformed user we all are. So yes, a warning would be fitting. If Zeek finds that I should not have used this example, I quite agree with any warning he'd give me.

Just as the warning Casshern received is fitting.

Case and point above.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:44 pm**

Rules and Guidelines wrote:c. Abuse / Racism
Members of the SGW community are required to speak courteously to others. Personal attacks on members are not tolerated. This includes comments about one’s sex, gender, skin colour, religion or cultural heritage. You may not post personal information about another user regardless of how it was obtained. This includes their address, phone numbers, names or any other detail about their real life status that they have not already posted on the SGW forums their selves. For exceptions to this rule please see the role playing section (section 6.)

Consequence:
Minor infringements such as throw away comments, may be ignored or a polite note from a moderator will be issued requesting the user tone it down. More serious cases will result in the issuing of warning points. Very serious comments will be given more warning points. This will be judged with input from the Ombudsperson, Forum Administrators and Moderators.

It's up to the Ombudsman to decide (or rather, recommend to the Admins) whether this was a minor infringement or if it was a more serious case. Clearly it was abuse though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:14 am**

Offensive Bias wrote:
[spoiler=]Now that we've said sorry and shook hands, you can go suck and nibble on that delicious popsicle, Cas. Didn't your daddy just give you one? You definitely know how to put it up, or so your partner told me last night.[/spoiler]

warning issued, completly inapropriate and a compelte breach of ombudsman forum regulartions. i could even warn you for the entire thing youposted cuz it all seems like a load of disrespectfull sarcasm to me.

shame on you offensive bias, you are a GM and should know way better then this

Posted: **Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:16 am**

Offensive Bias wrote:
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:
Offensive Bias wrote:Yeah, sorry about that, Cas. I am trying to get promoted to Knighthood in the Order of Morality.
I was too busy trying to convert you to my radical a-sexual faith to consider the option that you might have meant a defence.
After all, that would have been the logical semantical value of your remark. Absolutely! Now that you have opened my eyes to the truth, I will burn my holy books and tattoo a peace sign on my forehead.

Oh god, I wish I could take it all back.. all of it! Forgive me!

Now that we've said sorry and shook hands, you can go suck and nibble on that delicious popsicle, Cas. Didn't your daddy just give you one? You definitely know how to put it up, or so your partner told me last night.

[spoiler]I rest my case.
Funny how refreshingly new the focus of this complaint is.
Bias m8![/spoiler]

Sorry to interupt... but does your consistency in modding demand that you warn yourself for the above bolded part?
Now why would I do that? Didn't Casshern's interpretation of the rules allow such comments to be made?
As you can see, I illustrate the ridiculousness of allowing the masses to dictate the rules. (*sigh* If that wasn't clear from the "I rest my case" in the spoiler..) After all, if I just mean to tell Casshern what I told him, without the apparently warnable meaning you suggest it has, why should I be warned? Am I not just talking about popsicles?

My point is that while it may be entirely appropriate for the poster, it has an offensive sound/meaning to those who read my post. Now if you were a 12 year old, I would have poisoned your mind with those comments, regardless of how I meant them.

Had I posted this elsewhere, I would have had to warn myself / let myself be warned by other mods. It is WAY out of line, if you read it as the uninformed user we all are. So yes, a warning would be fitting. If Zeek finds that I should not have used this example, I quite agree with any warning he'd give me.

Just as the warning Casshern received is fitting.

Case and point above.

actualy universe, the ombudsman cornour has it's own set of rules wich are alot more srickt then the general ones

Posted: **Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:22 am**

Offensive Bias wrote:
Sorry to interupt... but does your consistency in modding demand that you warn yourself for the above bolded part?

Now why would I do that? Didn't Casshern's interpretation of the rules allow such comments to be made?

As you can see, I illustrate the ridiculousness of allowing the masses to dictate the rules. (*sigh* If that wasn't clear from the "I rest my case" in the spoiler..) After all, if I just mean to tell Casshern what I told him, without the apparently warnable meaning you suggest it has, why should I be warned? Am I not just talking about popsicles? :oops:

My point is that while it may be entirely appropriate for the poster, it has an offensive sound/meaning to those who read my post. Now if you were a 12 year old, I would have poisoned your mind with those comments, regardless of how I meant them.

Had I posted this elsewhere, I would have had to warn myself / let myself be warned by other mods. It is WAY out of line, if you read it as the uninformed user we all are. So yes, a warning would be fitting. If Zeek finds that I should not have used this example, I quite agree with any warning he'd give me.

Just as the warning Casshern received is fitting.

Case and point above.[/quote]

point 1 where exactly in my post could I possible corrupt the mind of a 12 year old.
point 2 Where is the offensive or racist or abusive part of the comment I posted
point 3 I would agree if I deserved a warning( which I don't) you do for your comments in this post. important to note I still think I don't so u don't either
point 4 if all you can do to fight this is make light of it, your points are null and void and have no substance
point 5 it's the interpretation of the comment which is important, I can find other posts showing where I commented on his inability to fight before, where your proof that I meant your interpretation of the comment.
point 6 if the comment is abusive in any means and if it is found to be I'll apologise. it intent was a bit of friendly /unfriendly batter. if we can not do this sort of thing on topic in a post, you removing alot of the fun that exists on the forum

Posted: **Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:34 am**

Earendil wrote:
Casshern wrote:
Offensive Bias wrote:point 6 the comment is abusive in any means if it is found to be I'll apologise. it intent was a bit of friendly /unfriendly batter. if we can do this sort of thing on topic in a post, you removing alot of the fun that exists on the forum

Actually, there are plenty of ther ways to 'have fun' without having to come close/crossing the line set down by Forum

i didn't think i did cross the line it was friendly batter that happens in most thread in general and gc. i would also point out i was talking about his defence and ability to fight back in context of previous one sided fights, i've had with him.

also the warning shouldn't be on the corruption of the innocent then but on it being abusive and i would think that it would deserve a polite pm and ask me to change it (since i've never had problems before).

so i can go then and apply the same rules to any post that members make on players inability to fight mass etc as its abusive to the players. Now that is extreme but since rules should be applied to everyone and not on whim or extreme intrepretation of a mod.

Posted: **Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:41 am**

it is currently up for discussion among the admins...

Posted: **Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:25 am**

Tetrismonkey wrote:Bump.

Just want to see how the Ombudsmans are going with this. Don't want you to forget about your work. Updates?

already written up and on vote for admins, just have to wait till they all replyd

Posted: **Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:22 am**

the admins have descided the warning is turned into a verbal warning.

zeek

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