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$$ Arguement

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:32 am
by bebita
JediMasterX wrote:Oh don't bring this BS about working for a living. I got two jobs and im still living pay check to paycheck.

Its cool if you're more financially stable than some people. That's nice. Congrats on a job well done. But not everyone is. Some people playing this game are still in school.

Here's what $ is. $$ is a steroid in this game. Everyone has the same chance to be as successful as everyone else without $$. At's are avaliable, the farms and raids are out there, the buyers and sellers are out there, etc. It all depends on luck and the will to go out and get it and to put the hard work into it.

Kind of like baseball. There have been some amazing baseball players in the history of the sport. Not long ago a man by the name of Barry Bonds came along and shattered the home run record. Later comes to find out that he was using steroids. And so were some other great baseball players. Those players are good, but they could never do what the old players could do without the steroids.

Kind of like now in sgw. The $$ spenders. Some of them are good. But none of them could even do what the old great players could.

what they did?
broker me your naq or i mass u?
:roll:
in front with the big corkscrew ( i know their tactics because i felt in their hands when i started to play this games)
they find ways in front with u to extort other people and they climed they are good players and when game become harder they run ( harder meaning they coulnd't threat the newbies)

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:36 am
by JediMasterX
Beb, how does my quote relate to your post?.... :S

I don't really understand but if you're saying corckscrew sent you a message extorting you or someone else then you're saying OE extorted?

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:39 am
by Neimenljivi
JediMasterX wrote:Beb, how does my quote relate to your post?.... :S

I don't really understand but if you're saying corckscrew sent you a message extorting you or someone else then you're saying OE extorted?


His posts often have nothing in common by a long shot with the posts he quoted..

~N

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:43 am
by Borek
JediMasterX wrote:Oh don't bring this BS about working for a living. I got two jobs and im still living pay check to paycheck.

Its cool if you're more financially stable than some people. That's nice. Congrats on a job well done. But not everyone is. Some people playing this game are still in school.

Here's what $ is. $$ is a steroid in this game. Everyone has the same chance to be as successful as everyone else without $$. At's are avaliable, the farms and raids are out there, the buyers and sellers are out there, etc. It all depends on luck and the will to go out and get it and to put the hard work into it.

Kind of like baseball. There have been some amazing baseball players in the history of the sport. Not long ago a man by the name of Barry Bonds came along and shattered the home run record. Later comes to find out that he was using steroids. And so were some other great baseball players. Those players are good, but they could never do what the old players could do without the steroids.

Kind of like now in sgw. The $$ spenders. Some of them are good. But none of them could even do what the old great players could.
When you are paying their rent/mortgage/food/living expenses then i am sure you can tell them what they can spend their money on, until then, GTHO.

As for dollar boy Jack, if you are too dumb to realize that selling resources to buyers so they can get an advantage in the game is not massively hypocritical of you then i will leave you to your own fantasies, lol.

If you don't like people using money to get an advantage in the game, STOP SELLING TO THEM BOY! You are part of your own problem, so either shut up or stop selling.

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:47 am
by Neimenljivi
Borek wrote:When you are paying their rent/mortgage/food/living expenses then i am sure you can tell them what they can spend their money on, until then, GTHO.

As for dollar boy Jack, if you are too dumb to realize that selling resources to buyers so they can get an advantage in the game is not massively hypocritical of you then i will leave you to your own fantasies, lol.

If you don't like people using money to get an advantage in the game, STOP SELLING TO THEM BOY! You are part of your own problem, so either shut up or stop selling.


Once again conveniently forgetting things ah? As I said I have problem with people being $biggest pros$ and $real warmongers$ not occasional buyers, even if they buy a lot till they don't go bragging about how good they are I don't have a problem with them.
But I guess those that I have a problem with do earn enough for their living, living being playing MMORPG that is going downhill fast that is :razz:

~N

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:52 am
by renegadze
bebita wrote:
JediMasterX wrote:Oh don't bring this BS about working for a living. I got two jobs and im still living pay check to paycheck.

Its cool if you're more financially stable than some people. That's nice. Congrats on a job well done. But not everyone is. Some people playing this game are still in school.

Here's what $ is. $$ is a steroid in this game. Everyone has the same chance to be as successful as everyone else without $$. At's are avaliable, the farms and raids are out there, the buyers and sellers are out there, etc. It all depends on luck and the will to go out and get it and to put the hard work into it.

Kind of like baseball. There have been some amazing baseball players in the history of the sport. Not long ago a man by the name of Barry Bonds came along and shattered the home run record. Later comes to find out that he was using steroids. And so were some other great baseball players. Those players are good, but they could never do what the old players could do without the steroids.

Kind of like now in sgw. The $$ spenders. Some of them are good. But none of them could even do what the old great players could.


You've just further highlighted what a lot of people have been saying for a long time, and ultimately what is driving the game to a nice downhill run straight into the ground. If I just started playing the game today , then regardless of how many hours I spend, or how much work I put in, I will never compete with the people spending $$. I'm not going to be hypocritical and say I've never spent anything. But it certainly hasn't been a lot....the state of my MS can vouch for that lol.

Unfortunately admin doesn't seem to care about the game any longer, so eventually it will die. Less people start playing every week, and of those that do how many actually stay long enough to form a reasonable account? and people quitting is at an all time high.....you don't have to be a genious to do the math :-(

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:54 am
by Borek
You are selling resources for $$ Jack, you have no say over what those players use it on, nor do you have any idea how much they are spending with other players, all you are doing is saying "my customers are fine, coz they pay me"

Utterly pathetic argument fueled by personal greed. /dismiss

Like i say, you are the problem, if YOU were not selling, these so called $$ warmongers you hate so much would have to pay JASON for resources, at a worse rate, meaning they get less of an advantage. And before you say you don't sell to the enemy, how do you know? Once you sell your resources to your customers they can do anything they want with them, including selling them on to the "$$ warmongers" you hate.

Like i say, stop selling or shut up dollar boy.

if dollar spending is such a heinous crime and is ruining the game, FFS stop selling and being part of the problem.

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:02 am
by Neimenljivi
Borek wrote:You are selling resources for $$ Jack, you have no say over what those players use it on, nor do you have any idea how much they are spending with other players, all you are doing is saying "my customers are fine, coz they pay me"

Utterly pathetic argument fueled by personal greed. /dismiss

Like i say, you are the problem, if YOU were not selling, these so called $$ warmongers you hate so much would have to pay JASON for resources, at a worse rate, meaning they get less of an advantage. And before you say you don't sell to the enemy, how do you know? Once you sell your resources to your customers they can do anything they want with them, including selling them on to the "$$ warmongers" you hate.

Like i say, stop selling or shut up dollar boy.

if dollar spending is such a heinous crime and is ruining the game, FFS stop selling and being part of the problem.


Yes I'm sure they buy it from me and sell it further to $real warmongers$, I mean it's gotta be what they do with aaaaaaaaaaaallllll the naq they get from me because I'm like the only one that sells naq for $.

I agree - I'm a part of the problem. I realized way back I can't fix the problem, noone can, so why not make something of it? You know, it's called W-o-r-k-i-n-g f-o-r a l-i-v-i-n-g. That living not being SGW of course but RL.
Like I said I sell to those that don't buy much and even if they would as long as they don't come bragging about being $real warmongers$ and $biggest pros$ I don't have a problem with them.

~N

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:03 am
by renegadze
Borek wrote:You are selling resources for $$ Jack, you have no say over what those players use it on, nor do you have any idea how much they are spending with other players, all you are doing is saying "my customers are fine, coz they pay me"

Utterly pathetic argument fueled by personal greed. /dismiss

Like i say, you are the problem, if YOU were not selling, these so called $$ warmongers you hate so much would have to pay JASON for resources, at a worse rate, meaning they get less of an advantage. And before you say you don't sell to the enemy, how do you know? Once you sell your resources to your customers they can do anything they want with them, including selling them on to the "$$ warmongers" you hate.

Like i say, stop selling or shut up dollar boy.

if dollar spending is such a heinous crime and is ruining the game, FFS stop selling and being part of the problem.


I agree to an extent...but a lot of people see it this way.....There are now a lot of people who only have an account to sell resources.....they have no def, no killable stats, just ppt and sell what they make every now and then. So active people seem to think "well if I stop selling, it won't change a thing"

as an example I got offered 700tril naq for $500 just earlier today....I'm not nearly flush enough to take them up on that and I'm not sure I'd want to. The person is totally inactive but still has naq to sell, and at a decent rate

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:07 am
by Borek
I agree renegadze, my complaint is with Dollar boy being personally involved as a resource seller and account buyer, whilst whining constantly about how unfair $$ warmongering is.

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:11 am
by Neimenljivi
renegadze wrote:I agree to an extent...but a lot of people see it this way.....There are now a lot of people who only have an account to sell resources.....they have no def, no killable stats, just ppt and sell what they make every now and then. So active people seem to think "well if I stop selling, it won't change a thing"

as an example I got offered 700tril naq for $500 just earlier today....I'm not nearly flush enough to take them up on that and I'm not sure I'd want to. The person is totally inactive but still has naq to sell, and at a decent rate


Exactly and I'm not playing just to sell naq.

I would also like to quote (gotta translate it of course) what's written on a one new beer here in Slovenia, I hope you'll get my point:
In moderate quantities it eliminates troubles, in too big quantities it causes them.


~N

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:12 am
by renegadze
Borek wrote:I agree renegadze, my complaint is with Dollar boy being personally involved as a resource seller and account buyer, whilst whining constantly about how unfair $$ warmongering is.


I'm not sure he's complaining so much about people spending $$, but more to the fact they think they are good at the game because of it. Claiming how easy it is to mass others and how they can take down any def.

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:15 am
by Neimenljivi
renegadze wrote:
Borek wrote:I agree renegadze, my complaint is with Dollar boy being personally involved as a resource seller and account buyer, whilst whining constantly about how unfair $$ warmongering is.


I'm not sure he's complaining so much about people spending $$, but more to the fact they think they are good at the game because of it. Claiming how easy it is to mass others and how they can take down any def.


I feel like..you really get me mate :oops:
Like renegadze said Borek, I've got a problem with those spending $ and thinking how they're pros due to having their accounts built up purely with money and how they can mass anyone with resources, once again, purchased with $.

~N

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:29 am
by jedi~tank
Borek wrote:I agree renegadze, my complaint is with Dollar boy being personally involved as a resource seller and account buyer, whilst whining constantly about how unfair $$ warmongering is.

Dont pay attention to him Borek, he's a loser and has nothing else to do.

Re: The Educators?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:37 am
by Borek
Jedi~Tank wrote:
Borek wrote:I agree renegadze, my complaint is with Dollar boy being personally involved as a resource seller and account buyer, whilst whining constantly about how unfair $$ warmongering is.

Dont pay attention to him Borek, he's a loser and has nothing else to do.

Yup, can't help people that don't realize we live in a capitalist society.