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I was not saying you were feeding Akhal. You just happened to be the first hit in the Logs that showed the IP. So in retrospect I was not thinking I should have not included your name. So oops my bad.

And I dont whine people can feed I dont really care it is all a game, but so much crap was being thrown at another player, I wanted to point some things out that were obvious sorry Ak. And I am always on the forums browsing but I think I have only made 4 posts or so.

Oh and by the way on that topic I have been searching the forums to find the proper procedure for getting an IP exception but in my in-experience I am unable to find it. Funny story really. My 2 children volunteered to play the game for a modest increase in their allowance, Ah it is so sweet that they want to help dear old dad. And yes there are members on that play the game that know I am married with kids. Shadow Dragon is one of them.

Now if I an can only convince my wife to play. She is not as easily bought as my kids. LOL!!!

And S1eepy you are absoultely correct, instead of whining we should just hit the people we think are taking advantage of the system. Whining serves no purpose, but neither does winning Q except bragging rights of course, I won, I farmed 35 Trillion more Naq then anyone else etc....

@ Bebita So you should start a Bragging Topic so People can go in there and Brag about the ppl they think are playing with an unfair advantage about how much Turmoil and destruction they can cause on these said individuals. And let the rankings at the end show who is the better player.

Thank you for letting me vent.

And yes B4 anyone says it "I am a noob" I have only played 5 eras yet and am still learning from the experienced players. But it is also my opinion in behooves the experiienced players to pass on their knowledge, becasue with out new blood playing the game, a game we all for the most part enjoy playing, will get rather humdrum and will eventually come to and end

Later

and what happens when bebita is not around? when he gets bored by Q again and heads off to annoy someone else?
We have to hope some1 else steps up and takes his place? Bugger that.
We need to change the attitude of the players, so that they stand up for themselves.. not just hope some1 else will deal with it.. because at the end of the day.. its everyone's responsibility

S1eepy wrote:and what happens when bebita is not around? when he gets bored by Q again and heads off to annoy someone else?
We have to hope some1 else steps up and takes his place? Bugger that.
We need to change the attitude of the players, so that they stand up for themselves.. not just hope some1 else will deal with it.. because at the end of the day.. its everyone's responsibility

Damn right S1eepy, but what can we do, its really to late once even the first lot of NAQ had been fed (first substantial lot anyway) as the feedee will be in a position that a normal account can’t compete with, I mean even with the AMS’s it’s going to prove difficult to keep anyone being fed down because they will be able to grow even when you’re destroying yourself in an effort to keep them down..

How about… admin either stops funds being able to be taken from one account too another from the same IP address (ahh, but that’s not the problem is it, you can just log in from another IP quickly)…. Hmm… well I don’t know…

What can be done to stop NAQ being taken from an account that has logged in from the same IP within XXX amount of time – say 1-7 day’s.

Are there any other options except us all uniting and crushing feeders??

Otherwise things could get a little out of hand, we all might just have to enlist the help of all our families (real and imaginary – lol, just as well I’ve got 15 brothers that have all been dying to play quantum to help me…)

alucard110 wrote:just as well I’ve got 15 brothers that have all been dying to play quantum to help me…)

Yea well my mum has 15brothers and they all have 5 kids each, all of whome want to help me win..

i have 3 brothers and they told me to get stuffed when i asked them to feed me lol i think they thought i wanted to be fed a cream cake lol

S1eepy wrote:

alucard110 wrote:just as well I’ve got 15 brothers that have all been dying to play quantum to help me…)

Yea well my mum has 15brothers and they all have 5 kids each, all of whome want to help me win..

Rofl, 75 ppl backing you... hmm... you might just be able to manage a win with that me thinks... lol...

OMG would you people get over it already... geez if I have to listen to one more whiny topic about feeding i swear i might just poke out my eyes!! Feeding happens... either mass any feeders you catch, get fed yourself or get over it and ignore it. I have never been fed hence I have never won a wave, but if I could get someone to actually farm for me and feed me I probably would. Its been like that since i joined quantum 8 or 9 waves ago, and yet every wave I have to listen to people whine about it over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Apogryph wrote:OMG would you people get over it already... geez if I have to listen to one more whiny topic about feeding i swear i might just poke out my eyes!! Feeding happens... either mass any feeders you catch, get fed yourself or get over it and ignore it. I have never been fed hence I have never won a wave, but if I could get someone to actually farm for me and feed me I probably would. Its been like that since i joined quantum 8 or 9 waves ago, and yet every wave I have to listen to people whine about it over and over and over and over and over and over again.

but if we dont wine about feeders what can we whine about (the lack of affy's posts on the forum maybee)

Dark Lord Tacoma wrote:

Apogryph wrote:OMG would you people get over it already... geez if I have to listen to one more whiny topic about feeding i swear i might just poke out my eyes!! Feeding happens... either mass any feeders you catch, get fed yourself or get over it and ignore it. I have never been fed hence I have never won a wave, but if I could get someone to actually farm for me and feed me I probably would. Its been like that since i joined quantum 8 or 9 waves ago, and yet every wave I have to listen to people whine about it over and over and over and over and over and over again.

but if we dont wine about feeders what can we whine about (the lack of affy's posts on the forum maybee)

Yes this is true, it does appear that affy's gone AWOL on us lately... thats something to whine about..

But yeah, Feeding does happen, admin hasn't labeled it cheating, most of us frown upon it, but feeding wins eras... unfortunately, but thats the truth.

It would be nice to have a separate rank for ppl being fed... then everyone could just polarize them and get on with their own game and the ppl being fed can knock themselves out making everything cheaper for the normal players... lol, how about that, i'm sure using the ME system admin could find out the "outliers" as far as NAQ farmed and label them as "eaters?" and just put them in their own ranking system, include them in the main rankings but also have "Fed" and "Non-Fed" rankings - so 2 first places - less Glory for feeders (or none)

Really thats my only problem with ppl being fed, that i can't beat them.. so why not rank them differently... then they can do what they like, we can just mass them if we're not happy with them or simply polarize them..??

Food for thought.

Admin should just add a function into Bebitas account so that if he uses 100 ATs on an account it actually gets deleted. (jokes)

What if admin made it so that you could only attack active accounts with over half your own army size... then at least if someone wanted to multi-feed they would have to waste a damn lot of time on their 'other' account...or their mother/brother/wife/cousin/uncle/sister/dad/grandma/best friend/housemate (etc etc ) would have to actually play half properly in order to feed them...

This wouldn't effect innactive farming, as 99% of those accounts never log on and so would never be considered 'active'...but it could stop the accounts logging on once a day, buying turns, then once a week farming and giving to their friend/relative.

HippyFool wrote:Admin should just add a function into Bebitas account so that if he uses 100 ATs on an account it actually gets deleted. (jokes)

What if admin made it so that you could only attack active accounts with over half your own army size... then at least if someone wanted to multi-feed they would have to waste a damn lot of time on their 'other' account...or their mother/brother/wife/cousin/uncle/sister/dad/grandma/best friend/housemate (etc etc ) would have to actually play half properly in order to feed them...

This wouldn't effect innactive farming, as 99% of those accounts never log on and so would never be considered 'active'...but it could stop the accounts logging on once a day, buying turns, then once a week farming and giving to their friend/relative.

The problem I can see with limiting attacks based on army size is the effects of AMS this era. I went from a 30k+ army size to 5k+ army size in about 2-3mins. Does this mean no one should have been able to farm me afterwords? (not that my income was worth farming...) Usually an army size restriction would work...but this era it would be rather chaotic as you could AMS folks out of your own attack range thus losing the chance at revenge. Also, would the active folks with those smaller armies not be allowed to attack folks more than 2x their size who are active? if they are that's a sniper's paradise. if they aren't then they lose out on the ability to make some really nice naq hits if they have big strikes which isn't fair and reduces their ability to increase their UP (thus reduces ability to catch up army size wise). Just some food for thought but at least ideas are being generated...

I never said there weren't any flaws to my idea, and you are right that with AMS it could get a little crazy!

I burnt all my ideas on that last post so I will wait for some other contribution before i put more crazy ideas up lol

HippyFool wrote:I never said there weren't any flaws to my idea, and you are right that with AMS it could get a little crazy!

I burnt all my ideas on that last post so I will wait for some other contribution before i put more crazy ideas up lol

Ok, here's a crazy idea... the Army size would work VERY nicely for a normal era, i think that would be interesting to see something like it implemented.

But how about adapting the same idea to some of the other stats, like covert lvl’s or just Unit production… don’t have any constructive idea’s on exactly how that would work cause I thought of something else.

If a feeder doesn’t have the bank capacity to hold the large quantity of NAQ that they want to give to whom ever the recipient is, they amass large quantities defense weapons…

Why not simply impose a restriction on how many weapons you can have in relation to how many UU, standard defense or super defense troops you have.

Say you can’t stockpile more weapons than a certain % of one of the above mentioned units. Or even a certain % of your army size, because there’s never any need to have more than 70-90% of your army size in weaps.. unless your defense mad.. (talking about smaller feeder army sizes here)

If we can limit or severely decrease the potential “bank” space of the feeders that will not only make it a lot harder for them to hoard NAQ to then pass on, but it will involve them having to actually put work into their account (which will be some what of a deterrent) … something like this would be good for a wave such as this one as once a feeder has been labeled their army size could be “controlled” and any weapons sabbed/massed…

More ideas when they pop in to my head…

alucard110 wrote:

HippyFool wrote:I never said there weren't any flaws to my idea, and you are right that with AMS it could get a little crazy!

I burnt all my ideas on that last post so I will wait for some other contribution before i put more crazy ideas up lol

Ok, here's a crazy idea... the Army size would work VERY nicely for a normal era, i think that would be interesting to see something like it implemented.

But how about adapting the same idea to some of the other stats, like covert lvl’s or just Unit production… don’t have any constructive idea’s on exactly how that would work cause I thought of something else.

If a feeder doesn’t have the bank capacity to hold the large quantity of NAQ that they want to give to whom ever the recipient is, they amass large quantities defense weapons…

Why not simply impose a restriction on how many weapons you can have in relation to how many UU, standard defense or super defense troops you have.

Say you can’t stockpile more weapons than a certain % of one of the above mentioned units. Or even a certain % of your army size, because there’s never any need to have more than 70-90% of your army size in weaps.. unless your defense mad.. (talking about smaller feeder army sizes here)

If we can limit or severely decrease the potential “bank” space of the feeders that will not only make it a lot harder for them to hoard NAQ to then pass on, but it will involve them having to actually put work into their account (which will be some what of a deterrent) … something like this would be good for a wave such as this one as once a feeder has been labeled their army size could be “controlled” and any weapons sabbed/massed…

More ideas when they pop in to my head…

Hmm yes I think i like that idea better than mine...but the formula would have to be very carefuly thought out so as not to impose the active people can actually afford a lot of weps.

Maybe a formula like - for every 1 UU (not including mercs) you may have X amount of naq in weapons. (this would also make techs more important)

Right now I have about 40k army which is probably middle range...and i have 330m defense with 20 top weps (value of 3.2b) - my defense is also pretty damn average. Say I wanted to build a top defense... around 3b maybe? - This would require (without changing techs) 10x more weps so about 32b worth of naq... which is 0.00000125 ( ) naq per unit.

Someone who hadnt worked on UP would have maybe 15k army? that would limit them to 12b worth of weps...??

Hmm i gotta go have some lunch before I think about this anymore lol...but it has potential