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Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:10 pm**

ok first i wanna point out that i am not trying to take the piss here, the following questions are genuin proper questions to which i am looking for proper answers if anyone can help.

if you believe in god and the bible i am not trying annoy you i mearly jus wanna know a few things.

if god created the earth in the beggining, when did he find the time to create the big bang, and all the other stuff that happened before the earth existed.

if god forgives all sins how can we go to hell and what if his idea of heaven isnt my idea of heaven, it wont be heaven if i dont like it.

lust is a sin, so how do we decide who we want to spend the rest of our lives with if we want to have sex with someone before we marry them thats lust but we wouldnt marry someone we wernt attracted to.

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

ok thats just about enough on that if anyone can understand any of what i have just siad and knows of any answers to my questions please tell me

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:15 pm**

scubapants wrote:ok first i wanna point out that i am not trying to take the piss here, the following questions are genuin proper questions to which i am looking for proper answers if anyone can help.

if you believe in god and the bible i am not trying annoy you i mearly jus wanna know a few things.

if god created the earth in the beggining, when did he find the time to create the big bang, and all the other stuff that happened before the earth existed.

The Big Bang is only a theory it hasn't been proven either

if god forgives all sins how can we go to hell and what if his idea of heaven isnt my idea of heaven, it wont be heaven if i dont like it.

God only forgives your sins if you are truley sorry for committing them

lust is a sin, so how do we decide who we want to spend the rest of our lives with if we want to have sex with someone before we marry them thats lust but we wouldnt marry someone we wernt attracted to.

if you can only get attached to someone by having sex with that person i am sorry for you

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

won't even pretend i read all that why, because god doesn't want people to believe in him, he gives us the choice...

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

i guess, i don't know what god looks like...

ok thats just about enough on that if anyone can understand any of what i have just siad and knows of any answers to my questions please tell me

Let me add this i do not believe the bible it was written by man, and for man, it was not written by god, i am not religious i am spiritual, there is a differece, i believe in god, on my terms, so those are my answers to your questions not necissarily true...

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:20 pm**

i am not a really faithful Christian but i do believe in God even tho i dntt know anything about him accept what has been preached over and over again :neutral:

in them Church i stay away from because they just make me remind last time i was their wasn't a nice happy day [-(

its just basically "Blind" Faith u either believe their is something better after ur time is up its as simple as that :neutral:

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:28 pm**

I'm pretty sure some people need to actually look up what a "theory" is. Just to enlighten the nubs here, a theory DOES in fact have evidence to back up the assumption, but it hasn't been able to be proven as an absolute truth under every circumstance.

Hope this helps.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 pm**

if god forgives all sins how can we go to hell and what if his idea of heaven isnt my idea of heaven, it wont be heaven if i dont like it.

God only forgives your sins if you are truley sorry for committing them

what if you arent sorry right now but want to decide in a few million years

lust is a sin, so how do we decide who we want to spend the rest of our lives with if we want to have sex with someone before we marry them thats lust but we wouldnt marry someone we wernt attracted to.

if you can only get attached to someone by having sex with that person i am sorry for you

i didnt say that i sed if we wanted to have sex before we are married thats called lust...
in the bible sex out of wedlock is a sin and is called lust and its how we reproduce its nature the birds and bees do it all the time please dont miss quote me

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

won't even pretend i read all that why, because god doesn't want people to believe in him, he gives us the choice...

so why did the church used to burn non-believers in the past and why are alot of our laws loosly based on the ten comandments not much of a choice there and thats called freedom. and i know that we need certain rules in a society to exist peacefully and without chaos so dont go tryin to miss quote me again

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

i guess, i don't know what god looks like...

ok thats just about enough on that if anyone can understand any of what i have just siad and knows of any answers to my questions please tell me[/quote]

Let me add this i do not believe the bible it was written by man, and for man, it was not written by god, i am not religious i am spiritual, there is a differece, i believe in god, on my terms, so those are my answers to your questions not necissarily true...[/quote]

hey i believe that there is something out there i was just wondering why so many people blindly follow a faith and expect others to do so when it is clearly based on lies and fabrications. and i know most faith are pretty much the same and people need to believe they arent alone and they have a purpose just to try and make some sane judgement of our existence, but lets face it, everything was a big out of control thing that happend that nobody after will ever know why it happend or how creation came to be

because if we do find out what created us theres always the question what created the creator and so on and so on

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:34 pm**

Earendil wrote:
AncientAnubis wrote:I'm pretty sure some people need to actually look up what a "theory" is. Just to enlighten the nubs here, a theory DOES in fact have evidence to back up the assumption, but it hasn't been able to be proven as an absolute truth under every circumstance.

Hope this helps.

I don't think it does AA, can you ...reword that to third grade standards please

IF I SMELL POO AND I'M TEH ONLY ONE IN TEH ROOM, THERE'S EVIDENCE I DID IT BUT I DONT KNOW 4 SURE, I COULDA STEPPED IN GOOSE CRAP

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:04 pm**

scubapants wrote:if god forgives all sins how can we go to hell and what if his idea of heaven isnt my idea of heaven, it wont be heaven if i dont like it.

God only forgives your sins if you are truley sorry for committing them

what if you arent sorry right now but want to decide in a few million years

lust is a sin, so how do we decide who we want to spend the rest of our lives with if we want to have sex with someone before we marry them thats lust but we wouldnt marry someone we wernt attracted to.

if you can only get attached to someone by having sex with that person i am sorry for you

i didnt say that i sed if we wanted to have sex before we are married thats called lust...
in the bible sex out of wedlock is a sin and is called lust and its how we reproduce its nature the birds and bees do it all the time please dont miss quote me

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

won't even pretend i read all that why, because god doesn't want people to believe in him, he gives us the choice...

so why did the church used to burn non-believers in the past and why are alot of our laws loosly based on the ten comandments not much of a choice there and thats called freedom. and i know that we need certain rules in a society to exist peacefully and without chaos so dont go tryin to miss quote me again

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

i guess, i don't know what god looks like...

ok thats just about enough on that if anyone can understand any of what i have just siad and knows of any answers to my questions please tell me

Let me add this i do not believe the bible it was written by man, and for man, it was not written by god, i am not religious i am spiritual, there is a differece, i believe in god, on my terms, so those are my answers to your questions not necissarily true...[/quote]

hey i believe that there is something out there i was just wondering why so many people blindly follow a faith and expect others to do so when it is clearly based on lies and fabrications. and i know most faith are pretty much the same and people need to believe they arent alone and they have a purpose just to try and make some sane judgement of our existence, but lets face it, everything was a big out of control thing that happend that nobody after will ever know why it happend or how creation came to be

because if we do find out what created us theres always the question what created the creator and so on and so on[/quote]

again bro, you keep speaking of humans, i am only human i can't answer it, but i can tell you especially for the burning that was humans choice to do not gods, and many other people have died because of it man it doesn't mean that that is what god wants... ya know...

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:49 pm**

Stop color coding and start learning to use the quote tool, **Filtered**'s sake.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:37 pm**

this is a general intelligent discussion AA [-X

color coding and screwing up quotes is just a by product of said intelligence

but yes I believe in Raptor jesus

or his original incarnation Buddy Jesus

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:16 pm**

what if you arent sorry right now but want to decide in a few million years

Good luck, there is nothing better than the present. If you are not really sorry now, then if nothing changes you wont be sorry in the future.

i didnt say that i sed if we wanted to have sex before we are married thats called lust...
in the bible sex out of wedlock is a sin and is called lust and its how we reproduce its nature the birds and bees do it all the time please dont miss quote me

We sin in our hearts, not just the flesh. Lust is not just limited to sex either. You can lust for power for example.
Think of sex as a bonus of being married to whom you love.
Marriage is scared. If you lust someone, but just want their body, pray to God to remove this temptation form your heart.
If you were to get married it would be someone you would want to be with for the rest of your life.

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

God has shown up to prove his existence. Many occasions.
To answer this question we would have to look at the history.
In short, they(Israelites) were turning faith into religion and religiosity.
... Answer is in the bible, atm i dont have the time to go though all the history.

so why did the church used to burn non-believers in the past and why are alot of our laws loosly based on the ten comandments not much of a choice there and thats called freedom. and i know that we need certain rules in a society to exist peacefully and without chaos so dont go tryin to miss quote me again

For law, you can say, easily, you need boundaries for freedom, its a logic paradox. A unjust law is no law at all, quoting st augstine, so do the logic, are the ten commandments justice? IMO, Yes.
Secondly, the church is made up of humans, no human is perfect. That would explain burning non-believers.

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

Some of the old testament was written in poetic verse, image doesn't refer to looks, but the spirit we carry.
And it is possible, highly likely, that adam and eve had purer genes than us. Hence lived longer. Inbreeding was forbidden later... for I presume genetic reasons.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:11 pm**

Dont ya just love the whole purer genes argument BS. Its like another argument I hear off some guy on IRC who thinks that nobility is passed on by DNA ](*,)

You just cant beat some people as they just dont understand the science, and as such ignore how their ideas are invalidated by the answers and evidence provided by scientific processes.

Its like cutting your nose off to spite your face

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:54 pm**

RoKeT wrote:
scubapants wrote:ok first i wanna point out that i am not trying to take the piss here, the following questions are genuin proper questions to which i am looking for proper answers if anyone can help.

if you believe in god and the bible i am not trying annoy you i mearly jus wanna know a few things.

if god created the earth in the beggining, when did he find the time to create the big bang, and all the other stuff that happened before the earth existed.

The Big Bang is only a theory it hasn't been proven either

scientific theory's are not the same as a theory, scientific theories are truth.

just because you dont know that it has been proven, doesnt mean it hasnt.

eg. i know the big bang has been proven, images of the superheated plasma have been taken by the hubble (however many billion lightyears away, as such we know it is around the time we believe the big bang occured) their are many other things that prove it but i forget them and the pictures are the most obvious of the evidence.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:02 pm**

scubapants wrote:ok first i wanna point out that i am not trying to take the piss here, the following questions are genuin proper questions to which i am looking for proper answers if anyone can help.

if you believe in god and the bible i am not trying annoy you i mearly jus wanna know a few things.

if god created the earth in the beggining, when did he find the time to create the big bang, and all the other stuff that happened before the earth existed.

if god forgives all sins how can we go to hell and what if his idea of heaven isnt my idea of heaven, it wont be heaven if i dont like it.

lust is a sin, so how do we decide who we want to spend the rest of our lives with if we want to have sex with someone before we marry them thats lust but we wouldnt marry someone we wernt attracted to.

if i was an all powerfull holy creator and i wanted people to believe in me i would show up every so often to prove i was real so that people were able to believe in me instead of just believing in something just because some book from 2000 years ago siad its real, man existed long before the bible so why did god wait all that time to let his son loose on earth to trick people into believing in his dad but wait jesus is god isnt he and his mum was a virgin so god impregnated mary but kept her a virgin and she gave birth to the thing that got her pregnant but somehow kept her virginity, anyway why did 'god' wait so long to show up then dissapear

if we all came from adam and eve and god created them in his own image doesnt that mean that god looks nothing like us because thats a whole lot of inbreeding over a very long period of time so we would look nothing like the first 2 of our species if there were only those 2 to start with.

ok thats just about enough on that if anyone can understand any of what i have just siad and knows of any answers to my questions please tell me

Well, a GOD that is capable of creating the heavens and the earth is certainly beyond my full understanding and if I suggested that he ought to do what I think he ought to do according to my personal wish list well he just wouldnt amount to GOD at all

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:31 pm**

Sir Balor wrote:scientific theory's are not the same as a theory, scientific theories are truth.

just because you dont know that it has been proven, doesnt mean it hasnt.

eg. i know the big bang has been proven, images of the superheated plasma have been taken by the hubble (however many billion lightyears away, as such we know it is around the time we believe the big bang occured) their are many other things that prove it but i forget them and the pictures are the most obvious of the evidence.

scientific theories are just that. theories. they can never be proved, just supported. in fact, the accepted test of whether a theory can be considered scientific is that an expriment can be designed that will disproof it.
the structure of the atom has seen many scientific theories, all considered truth at their time, and all proved not to be accurate. doesn't ean they weren't useful at the time. much of the chemistry we learn todays was based on the old concept of electron, which we now know to not depict reality accuretly.
newton's phisics was also amended by einstain's theory of reletivity.
ask a prominnent phisicist today if distance = time * velocity for any given velocity, and you will hear a "no".
so no, scientific theories are not "Truth". any scholar of science will tell you that.
and before you bother replying, please consider the fact that i took both phisics and philosophy in school (got a 93, as-well), and one fifth of that philosophy class was philosophy of science.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:58 pm**

Hitchkok wrote:im going to attempt to disprove the least important part of your post, ignore the important bits and then say you cant argue back because i went to 'school'

i meant theorems, easy mistake. and of course theorys and even theorems arent true in the most empirical sense sense of the word, but until they are disproven (in the case of well established theorems) they are taught as truth.

also be a bit less arrogent in your posts, you have no means to calculate the intellect of anybody you address on an internet forum.

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