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So im sure we've all been trying to spy someone, i understand that covert is there to hide your stats etc from prying eyes, but come on,

Random person i was spying had

Covert Action: 30,627,256,646

I have 31+ Trillion covert, and yet the game doesn't show me anything on the persons account bar there covert and strike,

Now im no expert but im fairly sure that when my covert is 1000x higher than the person im spying, i should be-able to see a whole of a hell lot more than i am, maybe time to adjust the covert functions.

lol, i know the feeling

Trying to find out someones defense is almost impossible if their covert is within 100x smaller then yours

Remember, Crit increases your Covert defence by 70%...

CABAL wrote:Remember, Crit increases your Covert defence by 70%...

Hate to say it, but when you have a covert of 31T, and they have a covert of 70b, and you can still only see <50% of their stats, isn't that a bit over-the-top?

Sarevok wrote:

CABAL wrote:Remember, Crit increases your Covert defence by 70%...

Hate to say it, but when you have a covert of 31T, and they have a covert of 70b, and you can still only see <50% of their stats, isn't that a bit over-the-top?

Yeh. Planets should not be changed though, unless they have <5% of your cov. (Or something like that)

CABAL wrote:

Sarevok wrote:

CABAL wrote:Remember, Crit increases your Covert defence by 70%...

Hate to say it, but when you have a covert of 31T, and they have a covert of 70b, and you can still only see <50% of their stats, isn't that a bit over-the-top?

Yeh. Planets should not be changed though, unless they have <5% of your cov. (Or something like that)

Well, leave planets, but just let us be able to see their stats more easily when our covert is say 10x larger then there, and even more, if it's some obseen ammount (like 50x or more)

Hello.

GeneralChaos you are right... the big numbers should be able to see more... if the game is built that way.

But what if admin built a special spying function to protect those 1000x smaller? In my logic, the smaller you are the harder it is to be found when someone looks for you... but i may be wrong.

Ok, i'm out.


PS. Also... sending all the spies in a mission to see stats is stupid. JMO

PPS. Maybe that you needed to send less spies?

PPPS. Sorry for posting this.

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:But what if admin built a special spying function to protect those 1000x smaller? In my logic, the smaller you are the harder it is to be found when someone looks for you... but i may be wrong.

I disagree. If someone has 100 people working to keep you hiden, and the opposition has 100,000 people working to find you, then i'm pretty sure that the 100,000 will be much more efficient at finding, then the 100 are at trying to cover.

Sarevok wrote:

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:But what if admin built a special spying function to protect those 1000x smaller? In my logic, the smaller you are the harder it is to be found when someone looks for you... but i may be wrong.

I disagree. If someone has 100 people working to keep you hiden, and the opposition has 100,000 people working to find you, then i'm pretty sure that the 100,000 will be much more efficient at finding, then the 100 are at trying to cover.

He didn't mentioned the army of the guy and i was refering to that... so in your logic, do you think that someone with a total population of 100 wouldn't observe 100,000 guys comming in his country, probably looking for something then burn everything (documents, important stuff, etc) to not be found?

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:

Sarevok wrote:

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:But what if admin built a special spying function to protect those 1000x smaller? In my logic, the smaller you are the harder it is to be found when someone looks for you... but i may be wrong.

I disagree. If someone has 100 people working to keep you hiden, and the opposition has 100,000 people working to find you, then i'm pretty sure that the 100,000 will be much more efficient at finding, then the 100 are at trying to cover.

He didn't mentioned the army of the guy and i was refering to that... so in your logic, do you think that someone with a total population of 100 wouldn't observe 100,000 guys comming in his country, probably looking for something then burn everything (documents, important stuff, etc) to not be found?

So, by that reasoning, if GC traded ALL he's UU apart from covert operatives, he should be able to see everything? Since a smaller covert team, with less covert skill, can get to a larger person more easily?

Sarevok wrote:

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:

Sarevok wrote:

Nigatsu_Aka wrote:But what if admin built a special spying function to protect those 1000x smaller? In my logic, the smaller you are the harder it is to be found when someone looks for you... but i may be wrong.

I disagree. If someone has 100 people working to keep you hiden, and the opposition has 100,000 people working to find you, then i'm pretty sure that the 100,000 will be much more efficient at finding, then the 100 are at trying to cover.

He didn't mentioned the army of the guy and i was refering to that... so in your logic, do you think that someone with a total population of 100 wouldn't observe 100,000 guys comming in his country, probably looking for something then burn everything (documents, important stuff, etc) to not be found?

So, by that reasoning, if GC traded ALL he's UU apart from covert operatives, he should be able to see everything? Since a smaller covert team, with less covert skill, can get to a larger person more easily?

I didn't mentioned covert skill... i'm just saying that he sent too many spies in a country much smaller than his... GC's covert skill alone should compensate for numbers... but he still sent ALL his spies, hence why he had worse results when he shouldn't.


Unless you think that 100 men less trained are so retarded to not see 100,000 men comming in their country and put ropes head to head to understand what foreigners are up to.

That may all be well and so.

However, how well is 100 troops meant to cover say 1m trained millitary men, with 1m weapons. Hide the mines where the resources are being gathered. Hide technology exibited by the local architecture.

There's a big difference between hiding data, and hiding actual things.

Sarevok wrote:That may all be well and so.

However, how well is 100 troops meant to cover say 1m trained millitary men, with 1m weapons. Hide the mines where the resources are being gathered. Hide technology exibited by the local architecture.

There's a big difference between hiding data, and hiding actual things.

I agree with you on this. The 100 men would not be able to hide physical objects of large sizes. But 100 men could keep secret the documents of the secret bases where the weapons and soldiers are ralied.

But that is another variable. GC, didn't presented in the first post, neither the army size, neither the defense action or other stats of the target, except the covert action.... he said that if he has 31t covert action he should see everything in the first spy report when sending ALL the spies. But IF the target was very small, chances are that all his spies will never find ALL the data because if you put 100,000 people do the work that could be done by 100, you will get 100,000 different reports, which will add a serios error when all the data is analised... this is what i wanted to say in my first post.