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U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:36 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
I'm going to give up one of my best farms to get the answer to this,
so I hope it's worth it...

I don't know for sure if it's a bug...

I don't know if it was intended to be a **Filtered** feature...

but I'm tired of it... ](*,)

I do know that it applies to a lot of my farms...

some are named Asgard, some are not...
Some have clones, these three listed below do not...

Stats are from VERY inactive accounts...
please check before warning me...

id=1972318

User Stats
Name: NecroParade
Plane: Normal Reality
Commander: None
Race Name: Asgard
Rank: 64,780
Army Size: 8,164,814
Treasury: 0 Naquadah
Fortifications: Underground Military Base
--------------------^^^^^^^^^^ Asgard Dial Planet... Nooo! ##

Relation (yours/theirs) War / Neutral

Super Soldiers:
NID Agent 0 22694 defenders...

**Notice these are not clones... :P

Technology Stats
Siege Tech: Alliance MotherShip Support
Fortification Tech: Underground Military Base
Covert Tech: Reverse Engineered Personelle Cloaking Technology
Anti-Covert Tech: Mobile DeProgramming Camps
Race Unique Tech: Advanced Rapid Evacuation Technology ##


" The forces of DublinWarrior_Rcrtng tore apart those of NecroParade
The forces of NecroParade flee from the battlefield! One could see glory on the face of the victors, and spite on the defeated!

Considering what was available at the time in the realm of NecroParade, it is recorded that
a total of 0 Naquadah was taken from the realm of NecroParade

Many wonder if NecroParade will consider retaliation, but - when force meets force - there will have to be some changes in the preparedness of NecroParade before such a feat should wisely be considered!


Your attacking efforts seem not to have an effect... no effect at all save a slight shimmering of the scene in front of you. IT IS A HOLOGRAM!! Your efforts are wasted, your ammunition spent. You curse your wasted efforts. "


This has happened repeatedly...
though when I first found Necro, it didn't happen for a week or two of farming...


Here's another one...
not named Asgard,
without named Holo-abilities...
with Supers called Human Form Units...

User Stats
Name: Palidroma[ warriors of sgw - cropyflop]
Plane: Normal Reality
Commander: nephrusdf(recruiting)
Race Name: Vashta Nerada
Rank: 21,742
Army Size: 2,667,393
Treasury: 2,192,275,636 Naquadah
Fortifications: Fully Converted Planet <-- Asgard Dial Planet... Nooo! ##

Relation (yours/theirs
your alliance/their alliance) War / Neutral
Neutral / Neutral

Human Form Units 1000000 79

Technology Stats
Siege Tech: Large Scale Nano Infection Ray
Fortification Tech: Fully Converted Planet
Covert Tech: Environmental Mimickry Programming
Anti-Covert Tech: Environmental Behavioural Routine Generator
Race Unique Tech: Advanced Unit Regeneration SubRoutine ##

The forces of DublinWarrior_Rcrtng conquered those of Palidroma
The forces of Palidroma flee from the battlefield! One could see glory on the face of the victors, and spite on the defeated!

Considering what was available at the time in the realm of Palidroma, it is recorded that
a total of 0 Naquadah was taken from the realm of Palidroma

Many wonder if Palidroma will consider retaliation, but - when force meets force - there will have to be some changes in the preparedness of Palidroma before such a feat should wisely be considered!


Your attacking efforts seem not to have an effect... no effect at all save a slight shimmering of the scene in front of you. IT IS A HOLOGRAM!! Your efforts are wasted, your ammunition spent. You curse your wasted efforts.

In battle, you distinctly felt the surge of energy infusing your army - from exactly where you are not sure - some higher plane, maybe ... You fought with a strength that was well above your own...


And a third one...

User Stats
Name: Stondar
Plane: Normal Reality
Commander: None
Race Name: Stondarieans
Rank: 22,514
Army Size: 6,302,158
Treasury: 8,560,899,304 Naquadah
Fortifications: Underground Military Base <-- Also not Asgard Techie...
Relation (yours/theirs) War / Neutral

NID Agent 234088 79 **

Technology Stats
Siege Tech: Alliance MotherShip Support
Fortification Tech: Underground Military Base
Covert Tech: Reverse Engineered Personelle Cloaking Technology
Anti-Covert Tech: Mobile DeProgramming Camps
Race Unique Tech: Advanced Rapid Evacuation Technology ##
You also notice an empty MotherShip docking facility...

The forces of DublinWarrior_Rcrtng massacred those of Stondar
The forces of Stondar flee from the battlefield! One could see glory on the face of the victors, and spite on the defeated!

Considering what was available at the time in the realm of Stondar, it is recorded that
a total of 0 Naquadah was taken from the realm of Stondar

Many wonder if Stondar will consider retaliation, but - when force meets force - there will have to be some changes in the preparedness of Stondar before such a feat should wisely be considered!


Your attacking efforts seem not to have an effect... no effect at all save a slight shimmering of the scene in front of you. IT IS A HOLOGRAM!! Your efforts are wasted, your ammunition spent. You curse your wasted efforts.



It was bad enough when one could identify an Asgard...
and avoid them...

When their names changed, I looked for
Race Unique Tech: Holographic Planet Duplication...
in the recons... or Asgard 8 Symbol Gate Dial Planet on their stats page... :P

but that doesn't work either... :evil:

So, um, tell me, please...
how do I find out if a player has Hologram Technology without wasting my Attack Turns? :evil:

And if this isn't the best way to get Jason's attention...
please let me know...
feel free to move it, send it, or post it on his refrigerator... :D

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:55 am
by Buddha
Lol you just hit a nerve i have given up trying to help unascended players because of the fact I find it impossible to find out what bonuses they have and where and what techs proberly :s.

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:20 pm
by Kikaz
Hologram is the Asgard's unique tech when getting attacked.

Just as Replicators regenerate self killed units when attacking.

Goa'uld's capture enemy's dead units when attacking.

and I believe it was Tauri that had the ability to leave battle with out taking any losses whatsoever when attacking or getting attacked..

Ascended beings had the unique tech of hitting an ascended blessing attacking or defending, which doubled attack and defense depending on which one.

Asgard, was the Defense bonus.

Replicator, was the Covert bonus.

Goa'uld was the Income bonus, with free banking.

Tauri, was the Strike bonus.

Every race had the ability to use their unique tech randomly even without the techs purchased, the techs purchased just made it happen more frequently.

So really if you don't want a hologram, avoid hitting asgards, and if they have a custom race name, maybe avoid unascended's with a custom race name...

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:45 pm
by Buddha
Kikaz wrote:Hologram is the Asgard's unique tech when getting attacked.

Just as Replicators regenerate self killed units when attacking.

Goa'uld's capture enemy's dead units when attacking.

and I believe it was Tauri that had the ability to leave battle with out taking any losses whatsoever when attacking or getting attacked..

Ascended beings had the unique tech of hitting an ascended blessing attacking or defending, which doubled attack and defense depending on which one.

Asgard, was the Defense bonus.

Replicator, was the Covert bonus.

Goa'uld was the Income bonus, with free banking.

Tauri, was the Strike bonus.

Every race had the ability to use their unique tech randomly even without the techs purchased, the techs purchased just made it happen more frequently.

So really if you don't want a hologram, avoid hitting asgards, and if they have a custom race name, maybe avoid unascended's with a custom race name...


M8 its not that easy anymore.

I have seen people with the bonus of a tauri, tech of a replicator.

And it took me ages to find that out because the person was a noob to tell what he had chosen in the menu.

So mixin tech and bonus seems possible from what i can see.

I just wished admin made it easy new names and all.

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:37 pm
by Kikaz
Oh crap, frogot about that part of the update..

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:32 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
Um, guys, it gets worse... much worse... :razz:

If you read through my post again...

you will see my recons of their Techs...


none of those three targets have HoloCity or HoloPlanet Duplication...

which I bolded at the end of my first post to identify what you are looking for in a person with legit Hologram Technology...

In the recon report, you should see:
Race Unique Tech: Holographic Planet Duplication...

These three inactive *Filtered*'s are generating Holograms in my logs
without a *Filtered* Hologram Generator in their Realm!!


However, the presence of Asgard techs should actually be present on the stats page...

Because, according to the Update, Techs are bought as a bunch...

just like Bonuses are bought as a bunch...

So an Hologram Generating City or Planet also needs to have
The other "Asgard" techs, namely:
Fortifications: Asgard 8 Symbol Gate Dial Planet,
which we can see on the stats page...

At this point, I'd settle for having to spy each target and looking for this:

Race Unique Tech: Holographic Planet Duplication...

But technically, I should be able to look at the Fortifications on the Stats Page for
the Asgard Dial Planet... :P

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:13 am
by Buddha
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:Um, guys, it gets worse... much worse... :razz:

If you read through my post again...

you will see my recons of their Techs...


none of those three targets have HoloCity or HoloPlanet Duplication...

which I bolded at the end of my first post to identify what you are looking for in a person with legit Hologram Technology...

In the recon report, you should see:
Race Unique Tech: Holographic Planet Duplication...

These three inactive *Filtered*'s are generating Holograms in my logs
without a *Filtered* Hologram Generator in their Realm!!


However, the presence of Asgard techs should actually be present on the stats page...

Because, according to the Update, Techs are bought as a bunch...

just like Bonuses are bought as a bunch...

So an Hologram Generating City or Planet also needs to have
The other "Asgard" techs, namely:
Fortifications: Asgard 8 Symbol Gate Dial Planet,
which we can see on the stats page...

At this point, I'd settle for having to spy each target and looking for this:

Race Unique Tech: Holographic Planet Duplication...

But technically, I should be able to look at the Fortifications on the Stats Page for
the Asgard Dial Planet... :P


M8 thats because of following thing:

Race Social Structure (units): <--- i have seen that change the names of the tech even tho you have the techs after something else.

It might be a bug but if someone take the Social structure of Human but tech of Asgard then i have seen the techs be names after the old Tauri race stuff but they actually have Asgard techs aka holygram planet.

So thats why i say its pretty much almost impossible to see what the people have of tech and bonuses these days :(.

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:59 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
:shock: [-(
(denial)

:evil:
(anger)

:-k :smt115 :smt117
(bargaining)

:cry:
(sadness)

:smt056
(acceptance)

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:40 am
by shooty08
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote: :shock: [-(
(denial)

:evil:
(anger)

:-k :smt115 :smt117
(bargaining)

:cry:
(sadness)

:smt056
(acceptance)


this.

Re: U don't need Holo-Planet or Holo-City to get Hologram?

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:15 pm
by BenjaminMS
No necroïng, thank you
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