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whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:50 am
by Dean_S
0 defence inactive?
0 defence actives
500bill defence?
1trillion defence?
2trillion defence?
how much naq would it take for you to hit? depending your strike and repairs
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:52 am
by GOLDEN WING
0 def would be 15-30bil
500bil-1T would be 30-60bil
1T and above would be a lucky 100-1T NAQ hit
only 2T+ i would hit if had nice amunt of uu's out e 5mil + or 2T-10T out (PPT NAQ)
i hope that helps
golden
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:54 am
by Dean_S
so how is any amount of naq safe
whats a safe defence?
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:56 am
by harchester
Dean_S wrote:so how is any amount of naq safe
whats a safe defence?
If i see nak, and its a big defence for example
2trill nak / 5 trill defence ill mass the defence to get the nak
really i would say there is no defence that is safe

Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:57 am
by GOLDEN WING
100bil-500bil stops farmers depending on income
anything bigger attracts massers.
i would say 600bil and NOX and Crit ur ok but if u havehigh income u would get massed and farmed.
if ur MS strike is above average u could get away with being massed tho,
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:57 am
by Dean_S
harchester wrote:Dean_S wrote:so how is any amount of naq safe
whats a safe defence?
If i see nak, and its a big defence for example
2trill nak / 5 trill defence ill mass the defence to get the nak
really i would say there is no defence that is safe

yes but i mean 500bill naq must be safe for a defence?
or 1trill naq must be safe at a certain defence?
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:59 am
by GOLDEN WING
if the masser can mass u and steal the NAQ and not turn up a Neg and make a Profit ur gonna get massed
all u can do is make a def that stops random noob farmers and their 100bil strikes
anyhting like 5T+ is liek a gold mine for ME which would get u massed even if u had 0 NAQ out
hope it helps.
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:00 am
by harchester
Dean_S wrote:harchester wrote:Dean_S wrote:so how is any amount of naq safe
whats a safe defence?
If i see nak, and its a big defence for example
2trill nak / 5 trill defence ill mass the defence to get the nak
really i would say there is no defence that is safe

yes but i mean 500bill naq must be safe for a defence?
or 1trill naq must be safe at a certain defence?
2/3 trill defence is normally safe from a casual farmer
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:01 am
by Legendary Apophis
GOLDEN WING wrote:0 def would be 15-30bil
500bil-1T would be 30-60bil
1T and above would be a lucky 100-1T NAQ hit
only 2T+ i would hit if had nice amunt of uu's out e 5mil + or 2T-10T out (PPT NAQ)
i hope that helps
golden
I disagree.
0 def is 20-50bil naq.
100-250bil def is 30-100bil naq.
250-500bil def is 45-200bil naq.
But that's me being after profits, effective farming and all.

I concentrate on 0 def people currently, and the above posted is indeed my average for 0 defs. More closer to 25bil naq average.
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:22 am
by Jim
Lots of people tend to work on 10%
400b defense- 40b hit
500b defense 50b hit
1t defense 100b hit
10t defense 1t hit
tends to work ok i guess
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:23 am
by Legendary Apophis
Earendil wrote:Legendary Apophis wrote:GOLDEN WING wrote:0 def would be 15-30bil
500bil-1T would be 30-60bil
1T and above would be a lucky 100-1T NAQ hit
only 2T+ i would hit if had nice amunt of uu's out e 5mil + or 2T-10T out (PPT NAQ)
i hope that helps
golden
I disagree.
0 def is 20-50bil naq.
100-250bil def is 30-100bil naq.
250-500bil def is 45-200bil naq.
But that's me being after profits, effective farming and all.

I concentrate on 0 def people currently, and the above posted is indeed my average for 0 defs. More closer to 25bil naq average.
Your numbers are way WAY off...
Indeed, they are profitable farming.
Less hits...less ATs used.
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They might be "way off", but I based that on what I usually hit for. I remember my time when I had 45-60bil naq average on <200bil defs. I shall go for that again..
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:25 am
by Legendary Apophis
Earendil wrote:there are a few people around who could hit for 30b on a 500b def and still profit =/
It's not about profit, it's about
maximising profit.
Economy studies for all these years sort of influenced me a bit, in the good way of course.

Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:29 am
by dastupy
Earendil wrote:there are a few people around who could hit for 24b on a 500b def and still profit =/

Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:44 am
by MaxSterling
Earendil wrote:there are a few people around who could hit for 30b on a 500b def and still profit =/

Yeah... had one of them in my logs the other day trying to hit me for 20-30b naq and came up empty... only to find themselves with 35b+ in MS repairs + the cost of the ATs.
Why the hell are people hitting for 15-20b naq? If ATs cost 700b/1k - 800b/1k? The minimum amount you should be hitting for is 2X the cost of ATs + repairs.
So who is it that has naq out?
*scans the ranks*
Re: whats a good naq hit to you?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:15 am
by R8
as harch said nothign is safe.
there are no "farming rules" anymore. hit who you can for what you can.
@max can you tell me how you get jessica alba hiding in your spoiler. i will pay good naq to get in there with her
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