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explain the Covert and the raid functions

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:35 pm
by Plasma_Jet
could some one describe the raid function, how to upgrade it, and all that stuff
as well as give a good overview of what each one does.
the covert, raid function, how to get more guys from raiding, preventing raids on yourself, etc..

i have been getting asked quite a bit i find out i dont know all that much..
if there is a current thread for this pls let me know, my buttons up top right are blocked by my adblocker or something.. trying to get that fixed.. its my browser... hm anyhow help is greatly appreciated

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:40 pm
by The Xeno
Honestly I've been on PPT since the updates came through...
However thats not going to stop me...
(All facts based on Q.)

could some one describe the raid function, how to upgrade it, and all that stuff
as well as give a good overview of what each one does.

You can't upgrade the raid function.
When you 'raid' you commit a normal attack, however, instead of stealing Naq, you steal UU. The percentage is small, maybe .02%.

All you need to do to defend against raid is have a high Defense and train all your UU into miners.

the covert, raid function,

You mean Anti-Covert?
If so, then search... I mean, I have typed at least seven replys explaining this.
I mean, It's cool that i'm now a prophet (having predicted the flood of questions), but I don't want to get carple tunnel.

Let me go fetch link. Brb.



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Ignore the stuff above my post as it's wrong :P (I think..)
http://www.stargatewars.com/phpBB2/view ... hp?t=16343
Addict gives a nice walkthrough at the end.

Let me add that Anit-covert units will deploy even if you lose the battle.
(They don't deploy in a massacre however).

Re: explain the Covert and the raid functions

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:49 pm
by Addict
Plasma_Jet wrote:could some one describe the raid function, how to upgrade it, and all that stuff
as well as give a good overview of what each one does.
the covert, raid function, how to get more guys from raiding, preventing raids on yourself, etc..

i have been getting asked quite a bit i find out i dont know all that much..
if there is a current thread for this pls let me know, my buttons up top right are blocked by my adblocker or something.. trying to get that fixed.. its my browser... hm anyhow help is greatly appreciated


Raid is a way to steal Untrained Units from an enemy instead of Naq when you launch a normal attack, you just pick Raid instead of Attack. However, it ONLY takes untrained units and since we had all UU's converted into miners recently it's probably going to be a little while before this is a viable option. When you spy someone successfully you can see miners as "super-untrained", don't let that fool you into thinking they are UU's and ripe for a raid, you need to make sure you check the non-super Untrained part of your spy report for true UU levels.

You cannot upgrade raiding, you will get 1-3% of the enemies UU's per attack, this is why they need to have a load of UU's to make it worthwhile.

Since raiding works like a normal attack having enough defense will stop an enemy taking them, but the easiest way to avoid it is to convert all or most of your UU's into miners, spys, anti's etc since no trained units can be stolen.

Covert doesn't help you avoid raids as such, but if you have a high enough covert it will stop people spying on you and seeing if you have any UU's to be raided in the 1st place, so it is always useful to get some.

Covert skill on it's own determines whether an enemy can see your stats, they need a similar or better covert to see some of what you have and a significantly higher covert to see all your details.

You can also use Covert agents to sabotage enemies weapons, again, you need more covert than the enemy to succeed, more so than to successfully spy them. In both spying and sabotage operations it's likely you will loose some spys if you fail so pick targets with care. As a general rule if you can see everything the enemy has with a spy mission, you can *probably* successfully sabotage them.

Also note that the Realm Alert level option on the main stats page can help you fend off spying and sabotage operations from enemies, at a cost of some naq/turn though.

if i missed anything let me know and i'll try and explain that too.

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:50 pm
by ZS Agent281
Anti covert is only something you need for rank or revenge. If you want to destroy someone just sab them then you can untrain all your spies and train them as Anti-covert and tear apart their ability to sab back. Also good if you want to set up farms for you officers.

Re: explain the Covert and the raid functions

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:10 pm
by MAsterp
Plasma_Jet wrote:could some one describe the raid function, how to upgrade it, and all that stuff
as well as give a good overview of what each one does.
the covert, raid function, how to get more guys from raiding, preventing raids on yourself, etc..

i have been getting asked quite a bit i find out i dont know all that much..
if there is a current thread for this pls let me know, my buttons up top right are blocked by my adblocker or something.. trying to get that fixed.. its my browser... hm anyhow help is greatly appreciated


Couldnt you have just read the updates on the home page or used the magical "Search" button :P

Re: explain the Covert and the raid functions

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:32 pm
by Plasma_Jet
MAsterp wrote:
Plasma_Jet wrote:could some one describe the raid function, how to upgrade it, and all that stuff
as well as give a good overview of what each one does.
the covert, raid function, how to get more guys from raiding, preventing raids on yourself, etc..

i have been getting asked quite a bit i find out i dont know all that much..
if there is a current thread for this pls let me know, my buttons up top right are blocked by my adblocker or something.. trying to get that fixed.. its my browser... hm anyhow help is greatly appreciated





Couldnt you have just read the updates on the home page or used the magical "Search" button :P


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yes i could have but agian you cannot read can you?
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my search function was disable do to adblocking software i run. its now disabled for gate wars forums.
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now again i did READ THE UPDATES. but they werent in crayon so it went over my head.


as to the other posters..Image
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EXPALINING IT ALL SO CLEARLY.Image