Re : Reliance on Planets

User avatar
buck
The Main Event
Posts: 9809
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 am
Race: Degenerate
ID: 16843
Location: Between and Devil and the Ace of spades

Honours and Awards

Re : Reliance on Planets

With the whole, Planet reliance thing people seem to have going on (Wereby someone can effectively mass you or an entire alliance takeing little casulties themselves) ive been trying to think of a fair way to counter this without the removeal of planets completely, as i know some people have worked hard on there planets and have spent $$$ on them, etc.

The idea is simple, Merline shifts your planets to anouther dimension, therefor, when they are merlin'd, your planets cannot aid you.

So if you wanna mass without losses, you have to take the risk of haveing your planets out. That would i feel, in the long term, fix the whole uneven thing whereby as i mentioned, you can mass an entire alliance with little losses yourself. I think it would bring back more risk to the game, and in conjuction with the recent turn price increase , make wars once again, difficult, and perhaps make people a little bit more scared of doing it, if you have to have your precious planets on display.

Thoughts, Feedbacks, Lynching? 8)
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
2006 -
Poster of the Year
2007 -
Runner up signature of the Year
Runner up most improved player of the Year
Runner up hero of the Year
Alliance war of the year (CIA vs COP)
2008-
Hall of Fame
2009-
Runner up Hero of the Year
2010-
Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Tekki)
Runner up Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Darthudd)

Noteworthy alliances-
Omega
Mayhem
Radical Minority
Nemesis Sect
Warlords of Briton

Previous affiliations-
TL
Ricos
DDE
The Tok'ra
The OOC
The SLA

Missed and dear friends -
Too Many to count, but never forgotten.
Code:
"Now I Don't like you, I don't respect you, and I sure as hell don't fear you. But seeing how your standing in the middle of my yard, I will break you."
User avatar
minisaiyan
Forum Addict
Posts: 2920
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:00 am
Race: DieHard
Alternate name(s): CJL
Hatebreeder
Aesthetics of Hate
Location: At a concert headbanging

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

excellent, though:
people could easily time ppt and merlins on attack planets to let them mass, similarly to what many gorillas do with motherships.
however thay could not do the same with defence planets as most massings occur while the victim is offline, so we would see a decrease in defence planets, making it just as easy, if not easier to mass someone?

though i do see the pluses in your plan.. nice idea, we'll see if anyone can develop it
Image
User avatar
buck
The Main Event
Posts: 9809
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 am
Race: Degenerate
ID: 16843
Location: Between and Devil and the Ace of spades

Honours and Awards

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Indeed, but that would require extra strategy, so an added extra to warfare?

I see what you mean by the defence planets bit, as well as other planets, but on the whole planet note, they were never meant to be relied upon, just to add a bonus, the fact they are heavily depended on now is what makes it so much easier to do alot , such as get massive UP's , Mass, etc. Makeing them a side aspect of the game as apposed to a main aspect would make your core resources (UU and Naq) more important in warfare, thus rendering wars better, more exciteing and difficult.
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
2006 -
Poster of the Year
2007 -
Runner up signature of the Year
Runner up most improved player of the Year
Runner up hero of the Year
Alliance war of the year (CIA vs COP)
2008-
Hall of Fame
2009-
Runner up Hero of the Year
2010-
Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Tekki)
Runner up Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Darthudd)

Noteworthy alliances-
Omega
Mayhem
Radical Minority
Nemesis Sect
Warlords of Briton

Previous affiliations-
TL
Ricos
DDE
The Tok'ra
The OOC
The SLA

Missed and dear friends -
Too Many to count, but never forgotten.
Code:
"Now I Don't like you, I don't respect you, and I sure as hell don't fear you. But seeing how your standing in the middle of my yard, I will break you."
User avatar
minisaiyan
Forum Addict
Posts: 2920
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:00 am
Race: DieHard
Alternate name(s): CJL
Hatebreeder
Aesthetics of Hate
Location: At a concert headbanging

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Very true.

Another way they could be made more interesting is, their stat is affacted by your realm alert level/nox. If you are on critical, defence planets become more effective, but attack planets are rendered almost useless if you apply nox? This would make players less inclined to sit about massing people while using nox.
Image
Buddha
Forum Irregular
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:22 am
Alliance: A Enlighted Place
Race: Human like you
ID: 0
Location: Farum, Denmark

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Not a bad idea actually would really hurt those with big planets who lived the entire serverwar on merlin hehe i say put it in NOW.
User avatar
buck
The Main Event
Posts: 9809
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 am
Race: Degenerate
ID: 16843
Location: Between and Devil and the Ace of spades

Honours and Awards

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Aesthetics of Hate wrote:Very true.

Another way they could be made more interesting is, their stat is affacted by your realm alert level/nox. If you are on critical, defence planets become more effective, but attack planets are rendered almost useless if you apply nox? This would make players less inclined to sit about massing people while using nox.


I love that idea, the nox afterall, are a peaceful bunch, and dont like you useing weapons! It all fits perfectly into place.

Buck and Aesthetics of Hate - Just fixed SGWS.
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
2006 -
Poster of the Year
2007 -
Runner up signature of the Year
Runner up most improved player of the Year
Runner up hero of the Year
Alliance war of the year (CIA vs COP)
2008-
Hall of Fame
2009-
Runner up Hero of the Year
2010-
Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Tekki)
Runner up Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Darthudd)

Noteworthy alliances-
Omega
Mayhem
Radical Minority
Nemesis Sect
Warlords of Briton

Previous affiliations-
TL
Ricos
DDE
The Tok'ra
The OOC
The SLA

Missed and dear friends -
Too Many to count, but never forgotten.
Code:
"Now I Don't like you, I don't respect you, and I sure as hell don't fear you. But seeing how your standing in the middle of my yard, I will break you."
User avatar
minisaiyan
Forum Addict
Posts: 2920
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:00 am
Race: DieHard
Alternate name(s): CJL
Hatebreeder
Aesthetics of Hate
Location: At a concert headbanging

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

A long way to go yet to fixing it, but i'll take any credit thrown at me 8)
Image
Buddha
Forum Irregular
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:22 am
Alliance: A Enlighted Place
Race: Human like you
ID: 0
Location: Farum, Denmark

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

buck wrote:
Aesthetics of Hate wrote:Very true.

Another way they could be made more interesting is, their stat is affacted by your realm alert level/nox. If you are on critical, defence planets become more effective, but attack planets are rendered almost useless if you apply nox? This would make players less inclined to sit about massing people while using nox.


I love that idea, the nox afterall, are a peaceful bunch, and dont like you useing weapons! It all fits perfectly into place.

Buck and Aesthetics of Hate - Just fixed SGWS.


I say REMOVE NOX as well. Its a way for **Filtered** to avoid heavy losses bah.

But i do like your planet idea.
User avatar
minisaiyan
Forum Addict
Posts: 2920
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:00 am
Race: DieHard
Alternate name(s): CJL
Hatebreeder
Aesthetics of Hate
Location: At a concert headbanging

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

nah, nox is a good idea, and often prevents massing large peaceful targets who have done nothing wrong as it would takes longer to mass.
Image
Buddha
Forum Irregular
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:22 am
Alliance: A Enlighted Place
Race: Human like you
ID: 0
Location: Farum, Denmark

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Aesthetics of Hate wrote:nah, nox is a good idea, and often prevents massing large peaceful targets who have done nothing wrong as it would takes longer to mass.


M8 NOX like ME and Turns unlimited is some of the things ruining this game as well as planets.

But NOX should be removed because i see tons of people even in war hiding behind it because they wanna avoid losses and fear for their accounts well being instead of doing as it is WAR lol.
User avatar
buck
The Main Event
Posts: 9809
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 am
Race: Degenerate
ID: 16843
Location: Between and Devil and the Ace of spades

Honours and Awards

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Agreed, Nox is something that makes it harder to mass too, so i think it should stay for now, when bloodrelms gets properly fixed nox becomes irelivent anyway, so proper wars would be faught without it. Lets not however get sidetracked,

Back to planets. 8)
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
2006 -
Poster of the Year
2007 -
Runner up signature of the Year
Runner up most improved player of the Year
Runner up hero of the Year
Alliance war of the year (CIA vs COP)
2008-
Hall of Fame
2009-
Runner up Hero of the Year
2010-
Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Tekki)
Runner up Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Darthudd)

Noteworthy alliances-
Omega
Mayhem
Radical Minority
Nemesis Sect
Warlords of Briton

Previous affiliations-
TL
Ricos
DDE
The Tok'ra
The OOC
The SLA

Missed and dear friends -
Too Many to count, but never forgotten.
Code:
"Now I Don't like you, I don't respect you, and I sure as hell don't fear you. But seeing how your standing in the middle of my yard, I will break you."
User avatar
KnowLedge
Forum Elite
Posts: 1831
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 5:06 pm
Race: Lord of all Daimon
ID: 0

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

good idea at first.. but i dont think people invested in the planets they have so that they stop working when merlined
ask me anything, i shell provide you free knowledge


Untrained Units Sold : 1245 Million UU

Am I a Good trader??
http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 8&t=114491
HellGirl is my **Filtered**!
User avatar
buck
The Main Event
Posts: 9809
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 am
Race: Degenerate
ID: 16843
Location: Between and Devil and the Ace of spades

Honours and Awards

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

KnowLedge wrote:good idea at first.. but i dont think people invested in the planets they have so that they stop working when merlined


No they invested in them so they could hide them behind merlin and mass or build far too easily and cheaply. Your negateing the whole idea that the game in itself needs to go back to its core stats to make it more difficult and more fun and make wars proper and winnable. This idea is with the intension of helping move the game forward and get rid of the staleness caused that planets are part of.
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
2006 -
Poster of the Year
2007 -
Runner up signature of the Year
Runner up most improved player of the Year
Runner up hero of the Year
Alliance war of the year (CIA vs COP)
2008-
Hall of Fame
2009-
Runner up Hero of the Year
2010-
Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Tekki)
Runner up Vendetta of the Year (Buck vs Darthudd)

Noteworthy alliances-
Omega
Mayhem
Radical Minority
Nemesis Sect
Warlords of Briton

Previous affiliations-
TL
Ricos
DDE
The Tok'ra
The OOC
The SLA

Missed and dear friends -
Too Many to count, but never forgotten.
Code:
"Now I Don't like you, I don't respect you, and I sure as hell don't fear you. But seeing how your standing in the middle of my yard, I will break you."
User avatar
Ĕɱƿŷ
Hannah Montana Groupie
Posts: 1108
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:43 pm
Alliance: Dead
ID: 911
Alternate name(s): Huxley
Location: Up your mom's butt

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

Well it seems to work only for attack planets which I do think cause a lot of problems when it comes to taking losses.
Image
Image
Made by Noobert for his Official BFF. (it's true!)
User avatar
[SlayerS_fith]
Forum Elite
Posts: 1548
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:11 am
Alliance: Ascended.Gen~
Race: ~Replicator
ID: 40009
Location: Aus

Re: Re : Reliance on Planets

so this only effects attack defense and covert planets.
his might work the new planet update
Spoiler
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Song to My Carerr starting 2011 :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPgfapFr3-s
Locked

Return to “Suggestions Archive”