Appeal
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:18 pm
Just to warn people I do like to get on the high horse so to speak every so often but I think I do have a valid reason to do so in this instance
Anyways: Appeal against the warning issues and the ineffective removal of irrelevent content
This is my first of the following comments were made in Sammaul The Rude Nemesis Tank vs. AGA and were then removed to Rants from Vendetta Corner (Nemesis vs LL, AGA and Eary)
"Good Hunting Sam.
I am sorry but I think this needs commenting on (This is my personal opinion and nothing more):
As for this comment by julliette: Now look at it. A bunch of miscreants, held together by what remains of former glory and a few newly introduced great people.
I am not totally familiar with the history of Nemesis as I am only new to this Empire (gives me a more impartial view since I am not caught up in the history of things! ) but I can see that they are far from the "miscreants" that you discribe so harshly. Loyalty and Honour still seem to hold true within Nemesis even if in some peoples view, Nemesis has fallen from its once lofty position. Still with those two core elements - it is the basis of any sucessful alliance.
I know one thing for sure though though - Although you have every right to speak your opinion here, you have shown no honour in the way you address your opinion here in public.
Anyways -Best of Luck to both parties involved and importantly - have fun lads "
I wished both players the best of luck - On topic I would say and it respondes the the following comment by Julliete which I might add was never removed since it is off topic and insulting to quite a few players I'd say.
"By the way, Stuff.. when I was asked to join Nemesis years ago, it was an elite group. When I left, not much of that former glory remained. Impossible promises were made, communication sucked, several rabid dogs were recruited.. no.. you act as though you are surprised I left. Have I not made clear to you, at your own request, how the presence of the filth you let in, your organisational dysfunction outweighed the joy of being with friends I had in Nemesis? No.. I'll tell you who ran. Nemesis itself ran from what it could have been. Now look at it. A bunch of miscreants, held together by what remains of former glory and a few newly introduced great people. The third superpower, we were to be. HA! You are Nemesis no longer. You are a pathetic shade of grey left in the footprint of what was once a great alliance. Remnants of an Empire, once glorious, now in a state of dereliction.
You have a decision to make, and the longer you run away from it, the harder it will become."
I am asking to repeal this decision (warning and removal to the dump) due to the the following:
- mod stated that topic was to cleaned of spam, however if one is to look at the topic - only my comments were not removed and the rest of the spam was left.
- second of all: my posts especially the first were related to the topic and addressed a point which needed addressing.
- if julliete's comments were not on topic then mine are not not so shouldnt both sets of comments be removed?
- how is anyone to respond to anyones point of view if the initial comment is left in the vendetta thread and the responce is removed to the public dump
Or another way to resolve this is for all the off topic comments to be removed completely with only sammaels and satan 666 comments left or to reinstate my comments as part of that thread - it is not spam - it is an opinion relevent to the situation that was being discussed in conjunction with the actual vendetta and if it cannot be allowed then only the two players comments should remain if I was to go by the logic of the mod in question.
My first post is on point I feel - the following posts I will accept as spam but not the first one.
UPDATE - mod did move some of the posts out to the general forum but still not all the ones addressing the issue at hand here.
Example:
Where is the relevence of this to the vendetta? If mine was kicked surely any like these should be removed as well. Or are both relevent to the context of the original topic and as such shouldnt all be restored then? Surely will put the above qoute in better context to the topic?
Anyways: Appeal against the warning issues and the ineffective removal of irrelevent content
This is my first of the following comments were made in Sammaul The Rude Nemesis Tank vs. AGA and were then removed to Rants from Vendetta Corner (Nemesis vs LL, AGA and Eary)
"Good Hunting Sam.
I am sorry but I think this needs commenting on (This is my personal opinion and nothing more):
As for this comment by julliette: Now look at it. A bunch of miscreants, held together by what remains of former glory and a few newly introduced great people.
I am not totally familiar with the history of Nemesis as I am only new to this Empire (gives me a more impartial view since I am not caught up in the history of things! ) but I can see that they are far from the "miscreants" that you discribe so harshly. Loyalty and Honour still seem to hold true within Nemesis even if in some peoples view, Nemesis has fallen from its once lofty position. Still with those two core elements - it is the basis of any sucessful alliance.
I know one thing for sure though though - Although you have every right to speak your opinion here, you have shown no honour in the way you address your opinion here in public.
Anyways -Best of Luck to both parties involved and importantly - have fun lads "
I wished both players the best of luck - On topic I would say and it respondes the the following comment by Julliete which I might add was never removed since it is off topic and insulting to quite a few players I'd say.
"By the way, Stuff.. when I was asked to join Nemesis years ago, it was an elite group. When I left, not much of that former glory remained. Impossible promises were made, communication sucked, several rabid dogs were recruited.. no.. you act as though you are surprised I left. Have I not made clear to you, at your own request, how the presence of the filth you let in, your organisational dysfunction outweighed the joy of being with friends I had in Nemesis? No.. I'll tell you who ran. Nemesis itself ran from what it could have been. Now look at it. A bunch of miscreants, held together by what remains of former glory and a few newly introduced great people. The third superpower, we were to be. HA! You are Nemesis no longer. You are a pathetic shade of grey left in the footprint of what was once a great alliance. Remnants of an Empire, once glorious, now in a state of dereliction.
You have a decision to make, and the longer you run away from it, the harder it will become."
I am asking to repeal this decision (warning and removal to the dump) due to the the following:
- mod stated that topic was to cleaned of spam, however if one is to look at the topic - only my comments were not removed and the rest of the spam was left.
- second of all: my posts especially the first were related to the topic and addressed a point which needed addressing.
- if julliete's comments were not on topic then mine are not not so shouldnt both sets of comments be removed?
- how is anyone to respond to anyones point of view if the initial comment is left in the vendetta thread and the responce is removed to the public dump
Or another way to resolve this is for all the off topic comments to be removed completely with only sammaels and satan 666 comments left or to reinstate my comments as part of that thread - it is not spam - it is an opinion relevent to the situation that was being discussed in conjunction with the actual vendetta and if it cannot be allowed then only the two players comments should remain if I was to go by the logic of the mod in question.
My first post is on point I feel - the following posts I will accept as spam but not the first one.
UPDATE - mod did move some of the posts out to the general forum but still not all the ones addressing the issue at hand here.
Example:
BenjaminMS wrote:Earendil wrote:-{ Angel }- wrote:Juliette wrote:By the way, Stuff.. when I was asked to join Nemesis years ago, it was an elite group. When I left, not much of that former glory remained. Impossible promises were made, communication sucked, several rabid dogs were recruited.. no.. you act as though you are surprised I left. Have I not made clear to you, at your own request, how the presence of the filth you let in, your organisational dysfunction outweighed the joy of being with friends I had in Nemesis? No.. I'll tell you who ran. Nemesis itself ran from what it could have been. Now look at it. A bunch of miscreants, held together by what remains of former glory and a few newly introduced great people. The third superpower, we were to be. HA! You are Nemesis no longer. You are a pathetic shade of grey left in the footprint of what was once a great alliance. Remnants of an Empire, once glorious, now in a state of dereliction.
You have a decision to make, and the longer you run away from it, the harder it will become..
I remember when i started to play this game you were the pathetic player everybody talked about for your actions and your lies..
Anyways Give him hell Sam
You just found yourself a statless month When i'm not on my ascending ppt
Have fun AGA Sam seems to do his fighting through PMs
And no worries, if Earendil and/or Juliette herself aren't onto your account, I'll be. You just proven how damned true Juliette's words start to sound...
For further note: GL AGA
Where is the relevence of this to the vendetta? If mine was kicked surely any like these should be removed as well. Or are both relevent to the context of the original topic and as such shouldnt all be restored then? Surely will put the above qoute in better context to the topic?