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Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:09 pm
by harchester
What im asking here is, do you support gay marriages...or Cival partnerships between two males or two females....
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heres what im thinking could people agree or disagree with me and if you disagree please state why you think so...
I believe that inherent within the God given right to the pursuit of happiness, is the equality God given right to the pursuit of unhappiness. that is why i will support gay marriage or cival partnerships between the same sex
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Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:19 pm
by LegendaryA
I do not support it.
In France, we got something called "pacs", sort of a pact between a man and a woman (a less "chained" kind of marriage, it's a metaphor ofc), even though according to stats 80% of those are straight couples used, it's the only available offer for gays & lesbians in France, and is sufficient imo. Because they can unite and shouldn't ask for more because it's just if you ask me for sake of asking for unneeded things due to existance of this pact & annoying the ones in favour of keeping marriage as it is. (just like some minorities asking very often for specific stuff and never being satisfied with what they have, always more more more)
Marriage is a special union between a man & a woman. We can divorce and remarry quite much in our lives if we want to, I think it's sufficient modifying in marriage proceeding.
Considering this pact exists here, and that homosexuality isn't forbidden like in some hypocritical dictatorships, I don't see why marriage should be permitted for them in my country.

Not to mention the fact it's better for children to raise with a father and a mother, because they complete each others a way that an homosexual couple could never achieve, but it's about mariage fact, so I will not develop.
Yes you might say I'm a "sheep" because I follow "my" party majority stance regarding it, but considering I agree with this stance...oh well.

Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:22 pm
by RoKeT
I agree with them, They do some what make me feel awkward, BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to be happy!
IMO, If I look at it from history
30 years ago a black man married a black women people would have been discusted
Now, Gays and Lesbians...
I think once it is passed, and once it becomes more "okay" It will be the norm!
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:32 pm
by LegendaryA
Teal'C wrote:I agree with them, They do some what make me feel awkward, BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to be happy!
IMO, If I look at it from history
30 years ago a black man married a black women people would have been discusted
Now, Gays and Lesbians...
I think once it is passed, and once it becomes more "okay" It will be the norm!
That's not really comparable. Black & white straight couples make children like a non "interracial" (as you anglo saxons call it) straight couple would. However, homosexual couples no matter their ethnies, wouldn't.
To me, it's more logical (and normal) to see a 100% subsaharian african rooted dude marrying with a north caucasian "aryan" like woman than two white or two black people from same sex. By "aryan" I mean with blonde hair and blue eyes (picking an "extreme example" given XXth history). Of course "aryan race" doesn't exist, but I just meant by this the kind of marriage that were banned in middle -and before- of XXth century.
Men are "naturally compatible" with women and vice versa. Our nature doesn't care whether we are from Zambia, South Korea or Italy to have children together.

It was just silly xenophobia and fear of people from different color (based on racial classifyings that screwed up people minds) that disabled permittance of different skinned couples. I'm very sure that christian church
for example has no problem at all with a black man or woman marrying with a white man or woman.

If it did, it was twisting due to this xenophobia, in other words, unbased refusal.
Now homosexual people have right to live together, France's example is perfect one. Neither we are totally banning it, nor are making marriage stricto sensu available for them (and as I said, this pact thing is mostly used by straight people, so it's not sort of "apartheid" at all)
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:37 pm
by RoKeT
Answer me this, If every Animal is Bi Sexual, and Every Human is an Animal, Why are we not?
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:40 pm
by LegendaryA
Teal'C wrote:Answer me this, If every Animal is Bi Sexual, and Every Human is an Animal, Why are we not?
Now that's some taken out of hat arguement. Chimpancés and bonobos aren't "every animals".
They tend to fight each others and do war to each others clans, kill other monkey species for pleasure,...
I wouldn't take them as an example to follow!

Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:41 pm
by RoKeT
It's Chimpanzees and Baboons, and No they aren't but they are the closest, lol and since when were they the only animals that have sex with there own Sex?`
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:43 pm
by LegendaryA
Teal'C wrote:It's Chimpanzees and Baboons, and No they aren't but they are the closest, lol and since when were they the only animals that have sex with there own Sex?`
The other species occurance of such practices is more than minor.
Read my edit also.
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:43 pm
by harchester
this is getting alittle of topic, its about Gay marriages not chimps
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:45 pm
by RoKeT
Lol, All I can say is this, Gay and Lesbian Marriage should be Legal, as truthfully I personally believe, and I have spoken with many people that do as well, I personally believe That all humans are in a way Bi Sexual, now Sexually or Mentally, I don't care lol, I just believe that all humans are, and I believe it is Ignorance in one self, to deny it!
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by harchester
Teal'C wrote:Lol, All I can say is this, Gay and Lesbian Marriage should be Legal, as truthfully I personally believe, and I have spoken with many people that do as well, I personally believe That all humans are in a way Bi Sexual, now Sexually or Mentally, I don't care lol, I just believe that all humans are, and I believe it is Ignorance in one self, to deny it!
In Some countrys it is legal, britain it is cannada it is another, its allowed but i ask why some people/ countries dont allow it
whats so wrong with it ?
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:50 pm
by RoKeT
IDK in America we are slowly allowing it state by state I believe we are about 50/50 on it
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:51 pm
by Thriller
I support Harch in his search for a Life Partner.
We already done this dance before harch; search function......
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:52 pm
by LegendaryA
Teal'C wrote:Lol, All I can say is this, Gay and Lesbian Marriage should be Legal, as truthfully I personally believe, and I have spoken with many people that do as well, I personally believe That all humans are in a way Bi Sexual, now Sexually or Mentally, I don't care lol, I just believe that all humans are, and I believe it is Ignorance in one self, to deny it!
You are missing the point about this.
Every people have a feminine and masculine side. 100% masculine men can be 100% gays, and less than 50% masculine guys can be 100% straight!
It's NOT a matter of sexual attraction in this particular case you brought.
Re: Gay marriages Do you support them...Political debate
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:56 pm
by Thriller
Leg Apophis wrote:Teal'C wrote:Lol, All I can say is this, Gay and Lesbian Marriage should be Legal, as truthfully I personally believe, and I have spoken with many people that do as well, I personally believe That all humans are in a way Bi Sexual, now Sexually or Mentally, I don't care lol, I just believe that all humans are, and I believe it is Ignorance in one self, to deny it!
You are missing the point about this.
Every people have a feminine and masculine side. 100% masculine men can be 100% gays, and less than 50% masculine guys can be 100% straight!
It's NOT a matter of sexual attraction in this particular case you brought.
I can't really tell your stance from what you wrote, answer yes or no. Should men and women be able to marry the same sex..?