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People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:09 pm
by Sarevok
So, what are people's preferance with the houses. Assume they will be brought it anyway.

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:07 pm
by Sarevok
Fair enough. Also maybe house/empire wide attack logs? So you can see attacks against the empire

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:20 pm
by MaxSterling
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Houses
1.) Perhaps change Houses to Empires
2.) Houses or Empires serve no purpose other than improving communication between the alliances.
3.) No bonuses. More bonuses only hurt smaller players even more. Nothing you do will correct this... and to be frank, new accounts should have a difficult time just like everyone else that has played this game had to go through. Those that go through the gauntlet will be better players for it.
4.) Empire Attack logs. Similar to alliance logs, but contain activity from all alliances within the empire. To reduce the lag, reduce the time frame to only include the last 4 or 6 hours.
5.) Increase the number available.
6.) Permit a voting sytem within the House/Empire.
7.) Allow communication throughout the empire.


Sarevok wrote:Fair enough. Also maybe house/empire wide attack logs? So you can see attacks against the empire

MaxSterling suggestion #4

SuperSaiyan wrote:other - just give us empires with the option of using bank funds for meaningless perks ie empire wide messages etc.

So basically it's poll option 3. No bonuses, just empire wide abilities.

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:20 pm
by Ashu
Gave my vote. Voted for option number 3!

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:33 pm
by Sarevok
mm, i like Max's idea for houses then the current ones. Though i would go with either redistribution of stats, or no boost at all

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:58 pm
by Lithium
houses are just a way to start another wide war

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:02 am
by Sarevok
I doubt that's the reason for them

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:20 am
by Lithium
what u ll do when yr allaince will be kicked while ina war

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:40 am
by Sarevok
SuperSaiyan wrote:if bonuses for houses are going to happen, maybe give them a down side

+10% strike
-10%covert

something like that... :-k

"Make the bonuses a redistribution of stats. Rather then out right bonus"
EG +5% attack, -2% defence, -2% covert and AC, -1% income ;)
That's what that option was meant to be for.

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:09 am
by MaxSterling
Sarevok wrote:"Make the bonuses a redistribution of stats. Rather then out right bonus"
EG +5% attack, -2% defence, -2% covert and AC, -1% income ;)
That's what that option was meant to be for.

What's the point, then? Why would I bother joining a house just to gain 5% attack, when I'll lose x% of all my other stats? I'd rather stay out of the houses at that point.

On the flip side... -2% of zero is still zero. If you refuse to build defenses, you lose nothing.

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:11 am
by Lithium
lone wolf +10% att/def

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:48 am
by Sarevok
MaxSterling wrote:What's the point, then? Why would I bother joining a house just to gain 5% attack, when I'll lose x% of all my other stats? I'd rather stay out of the houses at that point.
Because if you are both LG+1, and have 1m super attackers, then your attack is stronger, which also helps your AC

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:04 am
by MaxSterling
Sarevok wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:What's the point, then? Why would I bother joining a house just to gain 5% attack, when I'll lose x% of all my other stats? I'd rather stay out of the houses at that point.
Because if you are both LG+1, and have 1m super attackers, then your attack is stronger, which also helps your AC

So I gain 5% bonus to my attack. Don't build a defense and therefore no loss to my defense. Don't you see this could only lead to more snipering? House bonuses can and will be exploited in some way.

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:12 am
by Sarevok
It also means less covert power. So you can be sabbed more easily. And without a defence, you can be ACed too.

Is not anything that changes the game beyond communication exploitable to some extent?

Re: People's preferance.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:27 am
by MaxSterling
Sarevok wrote:Is not anything that changes the game beyond communication exploitable to some extent?

And that's why your suggestion is no better than admin's. The only way to do Houses is to provide no bonuses.
Besides, if I have level 34+ covert... do you think I'm gonna care about losing a few spies and weapons?