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In 1899 Sigmund Freud got a new telephone number: 14362. He was 43 at the time, and he was profoundly disturbed by the digits in the new number. He believed they signified that he would die at age 61 (note the one and six surrounding the 43) or, at best, at age 62 (the last two digits in the number). He clung, painfully, to this bizarre belief for many years. Presumably he was forced to revise his estimate on his 63rd birthday, but he was haunted by other superstitions until the day he died -- by assisted suicide, no less -- at the ripe old age of 83.

That's just for starters. Freud also had frequent blackouts. He refused to quit smoking even after 30 operations to correct the extensive damage he suffered from cancer of the jaw. He was a self-proclaimed neurotic. He suffered from a mild form of agoraphobia. And, for a time, he had a serious cocaine problem.

Neuroses? Superstitions? Substance abuse? Blackouts? And suicide? So much for the father of psychoanalysis. But are these problems typical for psychologists? How are Freud's successors doing? Or, to put the question another way: Are shrinks really "crazy"?

The article goes on into more detail but the gist of it is; mental health professionals are prone to poor mental health, and proposes a couple reasons as of why.

The main point illustrates that maybe a good number of people get involved or interested in the field to sort out their own issues.

An American Psychiatric Association study concluded that '"physicians with affective disorders tend to select psychiatry as a specialty." (Curiously, the authors presented this as their belief, "for a variety of reasons," without explanation.) In a 1993 study, James Guy, Ph.D., dean of the School of Psychology at Fuller Theological Seminary, compared the early childhood experiences of female psychotherapists to those of other professional women. The therapists reported higher rates of family dysfunction, parental alcoholism, sexual and physical abuse, and parental death or psychiatric hospitalization than did their professional counterparts. And a 1992 survey of male and female therapists found that more than two-thirds of the women and one-third of the men reported having experienced some form of sexual or physical abuse in early life. Freud seems to have been right about this one: The mental health professions attract people who have suffered.

IS this the blind leading the blind or would you want to your mental illness treated by someone who has been through it before?

Speaking from personal experience, I would say that the gist of this article is correct. While I may not be selecting the professional field of psychology as my future career choice, I am more interested in psychology and sociology due to certain incidents and experiences in my life. Also, everyone I personally know who are studying to be in either Neuroscience or Psychology fields have "something" wrong upstairs.

I don't particularly see this as too much of a problem, as all psychologists and psychiatrists get their own psychologist/psychiatrist to help them deal with their clients and their own lives. However, after my 8th "Professional", I made a decision never to go back to them. They have all been quite incompetent. However, the number of incompetent psychologists I have met is probably a good example of the average ratio of incompetents in any professional field.

psychology=quackery, so no, i don't want to be treated by anyone, regardless if they've "gone though it" or is a pro.

No one rest on his own deeds without trying to fix either the past or present, thinking this will change the future. Some however, realize and analyze what has been done, what has passed not to repeat it.


"We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Tom Stoppard

[KMA]Avenger wrote:psychology=quackery, so no, i don't want to be treated by anyone, regardless if they've "gone though it" or is a pro.

No its not quackery are you put it. Things can & do go wrong with our brains & our personalities, and when they do its nice to have someone there who knows how to help us back on track.

I'd suggest you learn a little about psychology first before writing it off, there is in fact actually quite a lot to it that I think would surprise you.


That said I wouldnt trust a psychologist as far as i could throw them simply as i know the type of people who gravitate to that sort of field of study, having spent my university years in halls where they always seemed to put computing/IT students in flats with psychology students (ya think they might have been making some sort of hint ? )

Psyko wrote:everyone I personally know who are studying to be in either Neuroscience or Psychology fields have "something" wrong upstairs.
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please define "something wrong upstairs"

Kit-Fox wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:
That said I wouldnt trust a psychologist as far as i could throw them simply as i know the type of people who gravitate to that sort of field of study, having spent my university years in halls where they always seemed to put computing/IT students in flats with psychology students (ya think they might have been making some sort of hint ? )

lol, and you say its not quackery?



psychologists are for emo's mate, and as you say, wouldn't trust one as far as i could throw...and i would LOOOOVE to throw them as hard as i could lol

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:
That said I wouldnt trust a psychologist as far as i could throw them simply as i know the type of people who gravitate to that sort of field of study, having spent my university years in halls where they always seemed to put computing/IT students in flats with psychology students (ya think they might have been making some sort of hint ? )

lol, and you say its not quackery?



psychologists are for emo's mate, and as you say, wouldn't trust one as far as i could throw...and i would LOOOOVE to throw them as hard as i could lol

Arguments?

Ashu wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:
That said I wouldnt trust a psychologist as far as i could throw them simply as i know the type of people who gravitate to that sort of field of study, having spent my university years in halls where they always seemed to put computing/IT students in flats with psychology students (ya think they might have been making some sort of hint ? )

lol, and you say its not quackery?



psychologists are for emo's mate, and as you say, wouldn't trust one as far as i could throw...and i would LOOOOVE to throw them as hard as i could lol

Arguments?

trust me, you're better off not reading what passes for arguments with KMA

Hitchkok wrote:

Psyko wrote:everyone I personally know who are studying to be in either Neuroscience or Psychology fields have "something" wrong upstairs.
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please define "something wrong upstairs"

Well, one person was diagnosed with Chronic Depression before she was 12. Another was diagnosed with a mild form of Psychosis (she sometimes saw bugs - like cockroaches - when there weren't any, and a strange man dressed in all denim with a red baseball cap) that didn't really affect her day-to-day living and has now disappeared completely. Then there are the people I know who have had traumatic pasts and show signs of PTSD, and the few that I know who are generally sane as one could get have mental illness in the family, which then affects them on a psychological level.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:
That said I wouldnt trust a psychologist as far as i could throw them simply as i know the type of people who gravitate to that sort of field of study, having spent my university years in halls where they always seemed to put computing/IT students in flats with psychology students (ya think they might have been making some sort of hint ? )

lol, and you say its not quackery?



psychologists are for emo's mate, and as you say, wouldn't trust one as far as i could throw...and i would LOOOOVE to throw them as hard as i could lol

Psychologists are very useful in understanding many of the levels of the brain & how it functions, to deny that the research carried out in the name of psychology was helpful is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Without them we would still have little understanding of learning disorders or of disorders relating to memories but i'm gonna guess you'll tell me that autism doesnt exist or that Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a fallacy? And thats just two examples right off the top of my head. There are many levels of pschology from looking at the developing brain to looking at how the advent of adolesence affects your thinking processes to how age can affect your learning and retention of facts.

It is indeed interesting and important that we understand as much as we can of our brains & how they work. I suggest you pick up a pschology book before writing off a whole science as quackery & learn a little about it

EDIT: Oh & to stay on topic & answer your question Thriller, I wouldnt want someone who couldnt understand the issues at hand to try and advise me. Such people usually gloss over the vital part you actually need help with.

Your not off topic, your discussing subject matter relevant to the topic. The questions i put at the end of my thread are inteneded to spark conversation.