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The Mother Ship

The MS needs an update I think to keep around newer players who join. I think the MS needs to be cheaper and easier to build up like how the fleets are in Ascended. Once you hit 100k then a jump and 200k another jump and so on and fourth.

All you bigger players who want to flame me because you invested soo much into your MS's, think about it, the game cant keep newer players if they feel like they have to use real $$ to catch up. I dont care if you invest 100+ odd trillions into your MS's, because guess what... you had a 3-4 years head start on someone who made their account today.

Ascending

I think it should take lesser GnR to ascend, but only to LG, and then after it could take the 1k GnR it is needed now. Like I said everyone has had a huge head start and already established their accounts. A newer player is just going to look at the challenge and say forget about it (or in some cases they face it head on).

I agree very much with you i have to pretty much force my cousin to play and he always complains on how long it takes to ascend and he think he has a huge ms at 130bill but if he could raise it faster he would be very happy and im sure he would stay he always complain on how people that famr him destroy his MS

Me Likies

MS one nya its alright. But you will get the hard workers, that have actually put the hard work and hours into get a 1-2 trill ms, complaining because its just been made easy and a cheap way off for the noobs, who 80% of them quit anyway, to compete against there's in a few weeks or whatever.

Not the GnR one, it should remain constant, if they cant get into GnR with a small army size then they shouldnt and dont deserve to. Ascending is there because you have accomplished something (and back in the day it was quite hard) now its easy anyway. Whether you have a friend who can spare you 5 mill or not. It doesnt need to be made easier than it already is. If they want to stay then they can and need to put in the hard work like everyone else has, even if someone bought someone elses account, that account didnt magically spawn to unknown, someone still put the months upon months in it.
Nonetheless you can be ingame and raid 30 mill UU anyway and by an LG.

people like max sterling would be offended, but he would quickly be able to get further ahead, so it evens itself out.

Its not just about getting further ahead. The fact that they HAD put the hard work into it and noobs can easily do it.
Its alright if you can fix that issue.

stuff of legends wrote:Not the GnR one, it should remain constant, if they cant get into GnR with a small army size then they shouldnt and dont deserve to. Ascending is there because you have accomplished something (and back in the day it was quite hard) now its easy anyway. Whether you have a friend who can spare you 5 mill or not. It doesnt need to be made easier than it already is. If they want to stay then they can and need to put in the hard work like everyone else has, even if someone bought someone elses account, that account didnt magically spawn to unknown, someone still put the months upon months in it.

I quite disagree with you here.

IMO, the G&R requirement amount should remain the same. BUT, the first 6, should have no time limit, the next 7-10, 1 week tops, and 11-23 the 2 weeks.

The G&R is easily achievable, and like Sarevok stated... it's the two week minimum which makes the ascension process take so damn long and discourages people.
I tried to make a suggestion about it in January, but it was quickly shot down by all the UnKnowns. Their concern was someone can sit on PPT the entire time and be funded by their alliance. I'm sorry, but I'm not funding someone else's entire ascension costs so they can sit on an endless PPT while I get massed.

The further your ascend, it's much more difficult to acquire the resources to ascend than it is to get the G&R.

viewtopic.php?f=160&t=158721

As for the MS... like everyone has stated. I took a 398b RAW MS to over 1.7T Raw in less than 9 months. You only need a 1T MS to really be competitive and I had that in less than 3 months, so it would only take 4 months of dedication to get a 1T MS from scratch. Even if someone half-assed it compared to me, they'd still have a 500b MS which isn't too shabby.

If anything needs to be done for new players, the HELP should probably be rewritten and a guide for new players should also be written with farming and raiding tips.

I refuse to give anyone hand outs because they throw their hand up and quit. We don't want quitters playing this game anyways, because even if we give them your suggestions... quitters will always find another reason to quit when things get difficult. Make them work for it. The community will be better off for it.

If you want to help new players, have them automatically put in whichever House removes blessings and make the anti-blessing house only available to new players.

MaxSterling wrote:The G&R is easily achievable, and like Sarevok stated... it's the two week minimum which makes the ascension process take so damn long and discourages people.
I tried to make a suggestion about it in January, but it was quickly shot down by all the UnKnowns. The further your ascend, it's much more difficult to acquire the resources to ascend than it is to get the G&R.

viewtopic.php?f=160&t=158721

As for the MS... like everyone has stated. I took a 398b RAW MS to over 1.7T Raw in less than 9 months. You only need a 1T MS to really be competitive and I had that in less than 3 months, so it would only take 4 months of dedication to get a 1T MS from scratch. Even if someone half-assed it compared to me, they'd still have a 500b MS which isn't too shabby.

If anything needs to be done for new players, the HELP should probably be rewritten and a guide for new players should also be written with farming and raiding tips.

I refuse to give anyone hand outs because they throw their hand up and quit. We don't want quitters playing this game anyways, because even if we give them your suggestions... quitters will always find another reason to quit when things get difficult. Make them work for it. The community will be better off for it.

If you want to help new players, have them automatically put in whichever House removes blessings and make the anti-blessing house only available to new players.

I agree 100%

Actually, if a new tutorial guide were written for the game, then the "register for this game" link should take them to the guide which should be placed in the newbie/faq section on the forum. That way the new player knows the forum exists. At the bottom of the guide, place another link to take them back to the game registration page at the bottom of the tutorial. Doing this introduces the potential player to the forum and lets them know there's a place to get more information and ask questions about the game.

the tutorial is a damn propblem, what a game when theres no updated help lol looks amatorial

regarding MS there are a lot of players who got a medium - good MS without investing $

Lithium wrote:the tutorial is a damn propblem, what a game when theres no updated help lol looks amatorial

regarding MS there are a lot of players who got a medium - good MS without investing $

yup

my 1.1T MS is Medium and i didn't have to spend a single $ to get it

I am not trying to say the MS should be way cheaper which is why costs should do a major jump like the fleets do in ascended like every 100k or something, i am only proposing this to help the newer players. This is just a way for them to keep up not surpass everyone...

Ancient_one wrote:I am not trying to say the MS should be way cheaper which is why costs should do a major jump like the fleets do in ascended like every 100k or something, i am only proposing this to help the newer players. If the game is going to survive for a couple more years things need to change.

Why? What's the point of incremental increases? Every 1k increase in volleys costs 10b naq. Every 1k increase in shields is 12b naq. That's a turn change in income or one more naq hit. If that's game ending for people... good bye.

If you're that concerned about new players, then why don't you create a training alliance and invite every new player to the game into it. Then you can teach them how to play the game and hold their hand instead of suggesting game updates to hold their hand.

MaxSterling wrote:If you're that concerned about new players, then why don't you create a training alliance and invite every new player to the game into it. Then you can teach them how to play the game and hold their hand instead of suggesting game updates to hold their hand.

Is there any need to?
All the guide needs to have is:
- Ascend, and don't stop ascending. Use brokers to save your stuff whilst ascending
- Build up your MS with all the resources you have not used up by ascending
- Collect attack planets, whilst having a minimal def. Never build a def larger than 200bil.