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Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:45 pm
by MaxSterling
* Naq Gained= .000001
* UU Gained = 100
My ME...
Naquadah Stolen(1.0E-6) 6,234,620,952,231,162
Untrained Kidnapped(100) 1,252,251,202
I'm getting 120b ME for the 600m UU I raided, but I'm only getting 6b ME for the 3.1T naq I've stolen?
Trust me when I say that farming 1Q actual ( not doubled stat from old ME )naq is significantly more difficult to do than raiding 500m UU. I don't know what was wrong with the old values for those, but they were at least closer in value.
This is something that would be best to correct now before anyone gains any new ME... Also, it would have been nice if you actually corrected the values which were doubled by the ME bug so that we could all have our "actual" values to compare instead of the inflated ones.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:12 am
by Rabbid Thom
did everyone elses ME drop by about 25%
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:17 am
by Baxter
yeah, because of the update to the amount of ME that naq stolen contributes
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:24 am
by deni
I agree with Max.
The amount of ME points for naq stolen is not mirroring the effort involved.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:25 am
by Rabbid Thom
man i wish it had added all the AC units killed from LS XD before updates i did about 300 mill lol
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:02 am
by Sarevok
The Cardinal wrote:did everyone els'es ME drop by about 25%
If your a masser etc.
If your a defender, it probably doubled
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:32 am
by MaxSterling
MaxSterling wrote:Mikgamer wrote:I would agree with a value in the middle of .00001 as being fair common ground. Everyone knows especially now UU raided should be lowered also to maybe 10 each.
solmyr wrote:the old value for naq stolen .0001 was okay, it meant 1Q to 1b UU which is okay, but id like to see it down a notch and i agree with *that guy* that said before .00001 middle ground seems reasonable
I actuallly disagree with changing the values and I'll tell you why.
.0001 per naq stolen
100 per UU raided
Those values allowed for raiders and farmers to also compete for the higher ME ranks. Therefore in order to have the top ranks, you didn't only have to be a warrior. It allowed more flexibility in playing style. Most of the top 20 ranks were your aggressive players and massers, but around rank 20.. you had BillusBallus who is one of the top raiders in the game. I was also around that rank and I'm known for my farming. If you change either of those values, you are saying that the only way to have the most ME is if you play one style of game.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:49 am
by Mathlord
And now the only way to have top ME is to build big defenses and sit and defend them.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:46 pm
by MaxSterling
Mathlord wrote:And now the only way to have top ME is to build big defenses and sit and defend them.
It's actually probably more equal now. The advantage obviously goes to the defenders while their weapons are still armed. Once the weapons are destroyed, they stop gaining ME and it's purely ME gained by the attacker killing off the remaining unarmed soldiers and spies.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:36 pm
by Rabbid Thom
yeah puts a balance to it
my ME dropped AGAIN today it's down to just 13% of what it was lol
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:47 pm
by Doc
TT:
The Cardinal wrote:did everyone elses ME drop by about 25%
Mine went from 150b down to 30b.
fml?
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:02 pm
by MaxSterling
The Cardinal wrote:yeah puts a balance to it
my ME dropped AGAIN today it's down to just 13% of what it was lol
I tried to say that ME value for naq should stay how it originally was before the updates because it was more equal.
Some idiot suggested that UU value was only 10 ME per UU now... in order to increase naq value by 10X.
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:37 pm
by deni
Actually it should have been the other way:
100 per uu raided
0.0001 per naq stolen
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:25 pm
by Mikgamer
When the ME rankings actually update we can see better were everyone stands and if any imbalance still exists. Maybe the naq and UU values can jump up 25-50% but 90% of the naq farmers like us get is off of in-actives. Hardly "military" actions worthy of experience.
~ Mikgamer aka "some idiot"
Re: War Exp. Values - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:05 pm
by Rabbid Thom
well from who ive talked to rank 142 is about 42 bil and rank 300 is bout 36 bil
150 people in that range of just 8 bil
seems everytime people login in their ME is going down a , i guess when i log in tomorrow i won't have an ME
