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why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:24 pm
by Lawless One
i only ask because you can call a person from

england - english
ireland - irish, paddy
france - french
poland - polish or pol
tunisa - tusin(wrong spelling)
usa - american
finland - finish
japan - Japanese
china - chinese

so y is it when you call a person from Pakistan a paki your been racist i could never understand this

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:31 pm
by dark lord tacoma
id say because 9/10 times the word is not used to describe somone from pacistan but rather to generalise a certain coulerd group of people

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:33 pm
by Legendary Apophis
It's same as calling a Japanese a "jap" I guess (it seems to be racist to call them so, probably due to WW2 rivalry and slang from it used in a hostile way).
As for Pakistan case, I wonder if it's either from current Indian hostility or past British hostility towards Pakistan. (I don't know)

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:36 pm
by ~Thamuz~
Dark Lord Tacoma wrote:id say because 9/10 times the word is not used to describe somone from pacistan but rather to generalise a certain coulerd group of people

Agreed, its like me calling you English lawless one, would that offend you if i generalised and called you English or a Scot just because you come from the same sort of area in the world as me, Even tho your not English or Scottish?

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:44 pm
by Lawless One
~Thamuz~ wrote:
Dark Lord Tacoma wrote:id say because 9/10 times the word is not used to describe somone from pacistan but rather to generalise a certain coulerd group of people

Agreed, its like me calling you English lawless one, would that offend you if i generalised and called you English or a Scot just because you come from the same sort of area as me, Even tho your not English or Scottish?

no it doesnt bother me it might if you could hear me and then called me english or scotish but i wouldnt be offended a lot of people dont know the difference between our accents anyway.

i could understand if it was a word against there colour but not because there from pacistan

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:53 pm
by dark lord tacoma
supose its because people who use it are being ignerent that the majoraty of people they call it arnt evenfrom that countery

ie people who have packistani heratiage that were born in england are english not "paki's" but are grouped into that name bracket

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:12 pm
by Lawless One
Dark Lord Tacoma wrote:supose its because people who use it are being ignerent that the majoraty of people they call it arnt evenfrom that countery

ie people who have packistani heratiage that were born in england are english not "paki's" but are grouped into that name bracket

i agree i could see this as a reason why alone with past troubles and current troubles in that area now it makes sense

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:14 pm
by ~Thamuz~
lawless one wrote:
~Thamuz~ wrote:
Dark Lord Tacoma wrote:id say because 9/10 times the word is not used to describe somone from pacistan but rather to generalise a certain coulerd group of people

Agreed, its like me calling you English lawless one, would that offend you if i generalised and called you English or a Scot just because you come from the same sort of area as me, Even tho your not English or Scottish?

no it doesnt bother me it might if you could hear me and then called me english or scotish but i wouldnt be offended a lot of people dont know the difference between our accents anyway.

i could understand if it was a word against there colour but not because there from pacistan

But thats just what it is used for, its used to generalise people who are the same colour, i'd say it would insult someone from india being called a paki because india and pakistan have a bit of a violent history towards each other, but if you called someone from pakistan a paki i would say it wouldn't have the same reaction and they would be fine about it.

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:14 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
pollock is also considered racist against Polish people...

even though the two you cited for Polish people were not...

the only truly slang term that I noticed in your list was Paddy for Irish...

Pol is more of an abbreviation of Pole... which I believe to be one of the correct term.

Pakistani is the correct term for someone born or living in Pakistan...



if you are offended by Paddy, feel free to argue against it...

I'm half Irish living in the USA,
and I've never been much familiar with the background of the word paddy,


but after reading Wikipedia,

and seeing the connection with the word paddywagon,

for a police vehicle,

especially one used to transport prisoners,

(my own prior belief... one doesn't need a wagon to go on a simple, unassuming patrol)


Paddy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Look up paddy in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Paddy may refer to:

* Paddy, a masculine given name, and a common diminutive for Patrick or Pádraig
* Paddy, in British English, slang (often derogatory) for an Irishman
* Plastic Paddy, a superficial claim to Irish heritage
* Paddy field, a field for semi-aquatic crops
* Paddy (pigeon), an Irish carrier pigeon during World War II
* Paddy Whiskey, a brand of Irish whiskey

-----^^^ makes me think they are silly for using that name...

* Paddy, slang word for a tantrum or fit
* Paddywagon, slang term for a police vehicle

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:28 pm
by ~Thamuz~
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:pollock is also considered racist against Polish people...

even though the two you cited for Polish people were not...

the only truly slang term that I noticed in your list was Paddy for Irish...

Pol is more of an abbreviation of Pole... which I believe to be one of the correct term.

Pakistani is the correct term for someone born or living in Pakistan...



if you are offended by Paddy, feel free to argue against it...

I'm half Irish living in the USA,
and I've never been much familiar with the background of the word paddy,


but after reading Wikipedia,

and seeing the connection with the word paddywagon,

for a police vehicle,

especially one used to transport prisoners,

(my own prior belief... one doesn't need a wagon to go on a simple, unassuming patrol)


Paddy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Look up paddy in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Paddy may refer to:

* Paddy, a masculine given name, and a common diminutive for Patrick or Pádraig
* Paddy, in British English, slang (often derogatory) for an Irishman
* Plastic Paddy, a superficial claim to Irish heritage
* Paddy field, a field for semi-aquatic crops
* Paddy (pigeon), an Irish carrier pigeon during World War II
* Paddy Whiskey, a brand of Irish whiskey

-----^^^ makes me think they are silly for using that name...

* Paddy, slang word for a tantrum or fit
* Paddywagon, slang term for a police vehicle


I thought paddy was used as its short for patrick and patrick is the national name of Ireland as well as the name of there national day. :-k

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
I think it is...

although I do know that St. Patrick's Day in the USA is much different than in Ireland.

but like paki... paddy came to mean other things...

especially when you use it to mean something like a police transport. :P

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:45 pm
by Lawless One
i often wondered why they called it a paddywagon too maybe it goes back to when england ruled us with the irish causing trouble and them been put into the back of it or even when we all went to USA and been in the back of 1 lol who knows but i dont think any irish person is offended when they are called paddy its more a nickname than anything else

none i know are offended anyway

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:51 pm
by ~Thamuz~
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:I think it is...

although I do know that St. Patrick's Day in the USA is much different than in Ireland.

but like paki... paddy came to mean other things...

especially when you use it to mean something like a police transport. :P

I have to say that i call the big police vans that they use on a fri/sat night to cart away all the disruptive drunkards a paddywagon, I have a few irish friends too and thay call it the same thing, even the police do, and i haven't met an irish person who has ever taken offense to it being called that. ~T~

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:11 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
~Thamuz~ wrote:
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:I think it is...

although I do know that St. Patrick's Day in the USA is much different than in Ireland.

but like paki... paddy came to mean other things...

especially when you use it to mean something like a police transport. :P

I have to say that i call the big police vans that they use on a fri/sat night to cart away all the disruptive drunkards a paddywagon, I have a few irish friends too and thay call it the same thing, even the police do, and i haven't met an irish person who has ever taken offense to it being called that. ~T~



I've used the term myself... in the same spirit as you...

It's only been here that I learned that an Irish person was sometimes called a Paddy... and only tonight that I made the connection...

of course, I live on the other side of the pond,

and there is certainly the possibility that Wikipedia's writer(s) exaggerated the implications of the term...


either way, Paddy is the only other true slang term,
(as far as I'm aware),

in the list presented by the author, lawless one.

Re: why is paki racist??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:40 pm
by KnowLedge
i dont see why its raciest at all.. You call a jewish a jew dont you? So why cant a pakistani be a paki..?

Not raciest.. only raciest if you call an indian, "a paki". because obviously they arent.. and might find it very offensive to be called that.. considering they arent.