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Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:32 am
by ph30nix
so heres my idea, giving that we will have a level 13 withing a week from what ive been told. theres going to be alot of time left with not much else to do but mass around.
Well why not take it a step further and throw in descension?
Cost 2x the cost for the ascension level
limitations
- cannot descend someone of lower level then you (the priors might help out the highest bidder but they dont help bullies)
-cannot descend someone whos stats are insanly over yours (numbers on this part would have to be looked at but im thinking similar limitations to attack vs defense and such)
- cannot descend someone for say 48 hours after they ascend or have been descended? (maybe less or more depending on the numbers)
im sure there are flaws in this. but one thing im thinking descension removes all your current units otherwise not much point. Figure this might help control the insane #'s we will be getting too as most actives will reach around 1 mil UP anyways if not more.
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:00 am
by Neimenljivi
5 mil UP minimum is more like it 
Besides seeing as there can only be one level 13 that would be a bit harsh, also seeing how you can be descended before era ends and someone takes your ascended level (if you're at 13) and then you can't even finish in top 10 It means a lot of hard work will be thrown out through the window, especially as it wasn't in the era at beginning which means whole era's tactics change for each individual, well at least those that had/have good tactics
So I don't think descension is a good idea..
~Jack
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:18 am
by ph30nix
i have a feeling ascension will end when market closes but that would remove alittle bit of the fun id say have ascensions stop 2 days before end at earliest.
but then maybe not have it remove your UU then so in the end you just basicly lose a multiplier.
that actualy sounds better.
oh and im level 12, i descend the level 13 then i ascend.... oh wait i have no UU....
ohhhhh and picture this everyone is up at there ranks 12 with the one level 13, mass waves of descensions hey look highest ascension is only a level 8 or 9 and the #'s are smaller
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:02 am
by Neimenljivi
Nope it isn't gonna work that way. How it's gonna work: Everyone will try to descend level 13, once that gets descended everyone will try to get level 13, then that one will get descended etc etc. In the end the one with most friends willing to help will have won.
And as I said, this wasn't coded from the start so it's unfair due to tactics to do it now
~Jack
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:21 am
by Magni
I'm with Jack on this one, it's too far into the era to throw in something new like that. However, I do think it's something that should be discussed for future eras if ascension is going to be a permanent feature.
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:26 am
by ph30nix
ehhh personaly i still feel it could fit in, era is only what 20-30 days old not even?
and as fun as this era is so far, i hope to never see ascension again lol
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:50 am
by Bernie Sanders
ph30nix wrote:and as fun as this era is so far, i hope to never see ascension again lol
agreed
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:37 pm
by Neimenljivi
ph30nix wrote:ehhh personaly i still feel it could fit in, era is only what 20-30 days old not even?
and as fun as this era is so far, i hope to never see ascension again lol
For those that are out of race for 13th - yes it could fit in. For those of us that are and those that just recently lost that race - no it couldn't fit in
~Jack
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:20 am
by ph30nix
well if ascension ever comes back, i think it should be put in.
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:42 pm
by 5forV
I like the idea of descension for future era's if they don't have a limit on the amount of players in the highest level.
If the idea of one player per level X continues I'd scrap the descension idea but it would be good to have the ability for people to ascend past that level and take the position;
ie HE is level 13, Jack is level 12, Jack wants level 13 so jack will have to pay the price for a level 14 ascension to get it. If HE then wants level 13 back he will have to pay the price of a level 15 ascension to get it, etc etc. Although each player in the top position only gets the level 13 benefit.
Basically once you're in the top spot you create a barrier of entry for competition, if the competition gets in they've demoted your position and you have to beat their barrier of entry to gain level 13 again.
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:51 am
by Neimenljivi
5forV wrote:I like the idea of descension for future era's if they don't have a limit on the amount of players in the highest level.
If the idea of one player per level X continues I'd scrap the descension idea but it would be good to have the ability for people to ascend past that level and take the position;
ie HE is level 13, Jack is level 12, Jack wants level 13 so jack will have to pay the price for a level 14 ascension to get it. If HE then wants level 13 back he will have to pay the price of a level 15 ascension to get it, etc etc. Although each player in the top position only gets the level 13 benefit.
Basically once you're in the top spot you create a barrier of entry for competition, if the competition gets in they've demoted your position and you have to beat their barrier of entry to gain level 13 again.
Well for future eras it might work yes, but definitely not for this one, now that everything is laid down
~Jack
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:04 am
by ph30nix
Neimenljivi wrote:5forV wrote:I like the idea of descension for future era's if they don't have a limit on the amount of players in the highest level.
If the idea of one player per level X continues I'd scrap the descension idea but it would be good to have the ability for people to ascend past that level and take the position;
ie HE is level 13, Jack is level 12, Jack wants level 13 so jack will have to pay the price for a level 14 ascension to get it. If HE then wants level 13 back he will have to pay the price of a level 15 ascension to get it, etc etc. Although each player in the top position only gets the level 13 benefit.
Basically once you're in the top spot you create a barrier of entry for competition, if the competition gets in they've demoted your position and you have to beat their barrier of entry to gain level 13 again.
Well for future eras it might work yes, but definitely not for this one, now that everything is laid down
~Jack
lol you just dont want all your well laid planning to get blown to pieces
oh so whats the ETA on you or HE hittin 13?
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:58 am
by Neimenljivi
Re: Descension and you!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:03 am
by ph30nix
hmmm i get the new ram for my PC in 4 days, so ill take that as a sign