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SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:38 am
by ~Sabaku no Gaara~
I know that i said this before but i have to say it again.
We need more players,there are like 220 players online every time of the day. This means that we need to bring more people to the game. Post here ideas on how we could do that.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:09 am
by Quina Quen
Reset the main server.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:21 am
by Guild
reset the server and jason is gonna have to cough up a lot of $$$
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:16 am
by Ashu
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'd say the best way to retain new players would probably be to remove the stick from the rear-end of the community, metaphorically speaking of course.
He has a point...
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:20 am
by MEZZANINE
There are 2 ways new players come to the game
Recommendations from current players
I used to recommend this game to friends and several joined, but I dont recommend it any more for 2 main reasons
1) It's a $$$ fest since the $$ market prices crashed, look at the strongest accounts ingame, and look at the people behind them, most of them are BIG $$ spenders and unless your willing to spend BIG $$$ too you will never match them.
2) Bad updates that admin comes up with god knows how and codes without consulting what the community wants, and then asks opinions after the fact when we know he will bring them in regardless of what opinions are expressed.
Web searches and advertising
Many players originally joined the game because they liked StarGate, but StarGate ended a long long time ago and the copyright problems meant what little similarity the game had to StarGate has been changed. If you want to get the attention of hardcore StarGate fans you need the game to actually represent elements of StarGate in the gameplay and design. If no longer interested in StarGate fans signing up, then rebrand and overhaul to something totally unrelated, and advertise with links from other sites/games !!!! I dont remember the last time I saw a link to SGW anywhere.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:28 am
by ~Sabaku no Gaara~
MEZZANINE wrote:There are 2 ways new players come to the game
Recommendations from current players
I used to recommend this game to friends and several joined, but I dont recommend it any more for 2 main reasons
1) It's a $$$ fest since the $$ market prices crashed, look at the strongest accounts ingame, and look at the people behind them, most of them are BIG $$ spenders and unless your willing to spend BIG $$$ too you will never match them.
2) Bad updates that admin comes up with god knows how and codes without consulting what the community wants, and then asks opinions after the fact when we know he will bring them in regardless of what opinions are expressed.
Web searches and advertising
Many players originally joined the game because they liked StarGate, but StarGate ended a long long time ago and the copyright problems meant what little similarity the game had to StarGate has been changed. If you want to get the attention of hardcore StarGate fans you need the game to actually represent elements of StarGate in the gameplay and design. If no longer interested in StarGate fans signing up, then rebrand and overhaul to something totally unrelated, and advertise with links from other sites/games !!!! I dont remember the last time I saw a link to SGW anywhere.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:30 pm
by Mathlord
The problem this game has is that the server has been running for 5 and a half years. Accounts have been thoroughly built up in that time and, while it's possible to catch up with either $$ or an insane amount of farming or raiding effort, the odds of anyone actually becoming a top tier player from a noob are pretty slim now. There are other games newbies could play from scratch and have a better chance of getting ahead.
I highly doubt the main server can be "saved" so to speak in the long run. That said, it is a testament to the strength and awesomeness of this community that after all these years a quite honestly standard game has kept running purely by the environment its players have created.
We talk about how alliance politics and super powers and all the drama of this game drives away members, and that's probably true. Without this quality, however, leading to aspirations, envy, anger, vengeance and strong allegiances in the remaining players, would any of us really still be playing a game where the most exciting thing we see is someone defend an attack with a power of 3?
Sometimes good things have to come to an end. That's not to say this server is ending anytime soon of course, but sometimes attempting to fix it will only break it further. A reset would kill this game and leave people furious and I reckon lead to lawsuits over the amount of money invested in this game. Opening another new server would only fractionate the community more and hurt our ability to hold together and keep it alive. Different updates renew interest, but they have to be really good otherwise it can also hurt the game.
In the end the sgw community is what we, the players, make of it. If you want to see more people play this game and join your alliance, go talk to your friends in real life or who you play other games with and try to convince them to join. If you want to change the way the game is run, then go to admin meetings or suggest updates on the forum. Will they often be implemented? No, but then you're doing your part. One thing above all, keep active. I am really tired of hearing people complain about how the game is dying and everyone is leaving then just up and leave themselves...SO STOP THAT OKAY!
Right rant is done...
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:10 pm
by jedi~tank
MEZZANINE wrote:There are 2 ways new players come to the game
Recommendations from current players
I used to recommend this game to friends and several joined, but I dont recommend it any more for 2 main reasons
1) It's a $$$ fest since the $$ market prices crashed, look at the strongest accounts ingame, and look at the people behind them, most of them are BIG $$ spenders and unless your willing to spend BIG $$$ too you will never match them.
2) Bad updates that admin comes up with god knows how and codes without consulting what the community wants, and then asks opinions after the fact when we know he will bring them in regardless of what opinions are expressed.
Web searches and advertising
Many players originally joined the game because they liked StarGate, but StarGate ended a long long time ago and the copyright problems meant what little similarity the game had to StarGate has been changed. If you want to get the attention of hardcore StarGate fans you need the game to actually represent elements of StarGate in the gameplay and design. If no longer interested in StarGate fans signing up, then rebrand and overhaul to something totally unrelated, and advertise with links from other sites/games !!!! I dont remember the last time I saw a link to SGW anywhere.
I joined the game because I saw the link posted on this place
http://www.thescifiworld.net/wallpapers ... ficial.htmand I clicked it and the rest is history. I do believ all the anti $$ sentiment is BS..it does have an effect..SOME of the best accounts have been built with $$ but the best players are the best players and until. Advertisement and a unified effort to recruit will do far more that pissing and moaning about the reasons why and who's fault it is. My post is not directed at anyone in specific even tho I am quoting Mezz post here..we have all played some part in what we see now. I have introduced 25 people to the game and 13 play now..not patting myself on the back here, however if we each play a small part in recruiting it will be alright for another 5 years.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:04 pm
by lone dragon
I would agree there are always more players needed but the main problems as I see it is for new players its a significant commitment and for the advanced players the thrill of the game after battling the same players could tarnish the fun of the game. The only solutions I think could be break the clusters of alliances into even amounts in which are comprised of both beginner and advanced players. So that new players get a chance to get involved in the game and advanced players get to teach and not only meet new people and teach and relive the beginnings of the game.
But its just an idea.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:11 pm
by jedi~tank
Thats a good Idea, in DDE this year we have made a committment to that very thing, unfortunatley it is hard for them because some really big players prefer to seek to drive them from the game as opposed to take on our best..I do not mean to take a shot at anyone here in this thread so please do not take it as such, but thats the reality of it nonetheless..am I complaining ? No. But what chance do new players have? DDE does not bother with sitting on such. In any event we will continue to recruit new players to the game and into the empire so they can be taught and ultimately decide for themselves if they like be hassled or not
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:55 pm
by caesar2
Give new players better accounts. Lets say, give a chance to create an accont with 5 ascensions, not able to ascend one month after creating. Give them some special resources, which cant be traded, only used for that account. Lets say some 10m UU and 10T naq. Give them protection for one month, when they cant be massed, but they cant mass as well. Hits on another account can be limited to one hit/5 minutes. And create an alliance where new accounts (per races) will be given imediatly after creating. So another players will know there are newcomers. Well, than, lets hope, some **Filtered** wont be hunting them from day 0. I say this kind of player should be banned.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:29 pm
by Lithium
giving resources to newplayers must be non tradable or it rise multing.
in my view the game fist ned a change in the play mode of many players who cant stand being attacked from small accounts.
You cant change the world but u can make yrs worth.
also theres an issue on the top 50 players who are 90% aggressive and we have seen sitting on others.
perhaps a League of Honor where whose of them join can behave following a honorable play code. and this league can watch high ranks if they do stupidities and decide to step when its necessary.
another issue is empire/coalitions which fraction the game or limit it in action.
also admin should give up a bit from thinking x his % and try to improve the free game first offered offered. this game is too fast for $ players , in few time they burn years of effort of those ho decided not to spend by choice.
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:15 am
by IceBreaker
I would do this:- Members recruting new players ( Give them some bonus resources if player recruted by this member is active for 2 months + )
- Advetise via Google AdWords
- Advetise via Facebook
- Better graphics to make game more attractive
- Give new comers more resources to start with and automaticly in peragonity realm
- Realm re-construct: 1 - 50, 50 - 150, 150 + ( Army size ) for better chance new commers stays
Thats it from my side
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:44 am
by Lithium
giving doesnt help , also 99% of players here are SG1 followers. there are far better graphic games in the net better then this so one not connected to sg1 can join.
game should be affordable for new players and players shall not be greedy.
why they are greedy? coz admin keep releasing new updates to rise costs and who wana get them must heavy farm
Re: SGW needs more players.
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:13 am
by jedi~tank
Lithium wrote:giving resources to newplayers must be non tradable or it rise multing.
in my view the game fist ned a change in the play mode of many players who cant stand being attacked from small accounts.
You cant change the world but u can make yrs worth.
also theres an issue on the top 50 players who are 90% aggressive and we have seen sitting on others.
perhaps a League of Honor where whose of them join can behave following a honorable play code. and this league can watch high ranks if they do stupidities and decide to step when its necessary.
another issue is empire/coalitions which fraction the game or limit it in action.
also admin should give up a bit from thinking x his % and try to improve the free game first offered offered. this game is too fast for $ players , in few time they burn years of effort of those ho decided not to spend by choice.