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The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:33 am
by Noobert
I began recently reading these books when I have time, I'm still on the first part of book one.
Any one else read these books?
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:44 am
by Zeratul
not yet... but we've heard they're good...
(we decided several years ago that we were not going to read them until the last book in the series is written and published.)
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:17 am
by Melian
I am on book 5. they are amazing. <3 Robert Jordan
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:23 am
by Rocky
book 3 for me
im working through them
, very imaginative stories, well written
Robert Jordan was awesome, may he rest in peace, i think someone else is finishing off his last 2-3 books, he left extensive notes on them so its still all his storyline
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:19 pm
by Zeratul
Rocky wrote:book 3 for me
im working through them
, very imaginative stories, well written
Robert Jordan was awesome, may he rest in peace, i think someone else is finishing off his last 2-3 books, he left extensive notes on them so its still all his storyline
That is correct. The last (and fourteenth) book is estimated to be released in fall 2011. Once that happens, we will start reading book one.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:31 am
by RepliMagni
I've read 1-11 twice now.....gonna wait till the three Sanderson ones are all published before reading them.
It is epic in every sense of the word: 10k pages long so far....15 days worth of audio books....
There are some great characters, races, story arcs, twists, turns and blind alleys. However, there are also weaknesses: poor editing, poor choices from book 7 onwards, too much focus on secondary characters, and it became a challenge to finish them rather than a joy.
He does have an annoying tendency to drag things out - for example a boat trip lasting ten days from one place to another: could have spent a couple of pages just saying everyone was restless, instead you get two chapters of Nyneave's braid pulling, Elayne's chin raising, and Aviendha's fear of water.....and nothing remarkable happens on the boat journey except they get to the location....
However, he rejuvenated the series in book 11 for me and that was one of the best books of the series.....I just hope Sanderson can continue that highnote through to the end.....
It is definitely a good plot, and you will find yourself hooked - but be prepared to trudge through some pretty heavy literature at times - and bang your head a lot when you hear the same idea/thought said a hundred times before he thinks you've quite grasped it.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:35 am
by Melian
yea sanderson is finishing up the series. He is a pretty good fantasy author in his own right which is why Jordan's wife chose him to complete his work.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:38 am
by Londo Mollari
i read the first few books and well, thought it was utter drivel to be honest
i found the storyline overly cliched and predictable
and i think the writing style is juvenile and weak in both use of vocabulary and grammar
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:08 am
by Sammael
i have read up too book 7, i must admit the frist book didnt catch me but i decided to go o and read the next and then i got hooked, but since i dont evenj have time for reading yer busy life, but i will get on reading them all lol.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:31 pm
by Mordack
I'm going to quote what I said in an earlier thread on this subject, because
yes, I am that pretentious.
Uhm, I'll start by saying that I think Robert Jordan has a great imagination, and an interesting story to tell. I thought Book One, the Eye of the World, was a truly brilliant work of fantasy.
But I have two main problems with his writing: One is that he's badly in need of a good editor. He feels compelled to pound ideas into your head. He lacks a good deal of what George R.R Martin, another contemporary fantasy writer, possesses in plentitude - subtlety and/or finesse. What GRRM says in a few words takes RJ reams, after which, the reader has been "worded" into a sort of semi-conscious state only to be jolted awake by an interesting nugget. I would chalk this up to just being a so-so writer, but then I have to admit I am hooked by the story.
The other problem is that - and this is probably the reason for the first problem - the story has been stretched beyond its logical bounds, whether for income-producing reasons or not, I can't say. At this point, I have no idea whether the multitude of names of nobles I've shuffled through will be important and worthy of remembering at a later stage in the book, or whether I can file them away under "useless junk."
So in short, I would give him an A for plotline, but a C for execution.
I did want to give him his props where props are due. I'll continue reading. It's not as though I'm not enjoying a lot of aspects of it. (I've become immune to, or set wards against, the literary tics - braid pulling, glaring, etc.) I like the main characters - yes, even Nynaeve.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:51 am
by Noobert
I have to agree with Mordack on a few things; the glares, etc are very annoying. It's an amazing story line, but it does feel a bit drawn out rather then a fluid story line.
The story is bad ass though. It puts LOTR to shame IMO.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:34 am
by Melian
Noobert wrote:
The story is bad ass though. It puts LOTR to shame IMO.
I wouldn't go quite that far.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:12 am
by Noobert
I haven't read the books from LOTR, but I have played the games related to it and watched the movies and it seems to me that The Wheel of Time has more good vs evil, and plot twists then LOTR does.
LOTR seems straight forward, with clear definitions of who is good and who is evil. You can even predict what will happen in the movies or games (by games, I am referring to Battle for Middle Earth or an XBOX 360 game~
).
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:43 am
by kojak
Noobert wrote:I haven't read the books from LOTR, but I have played the games related to it and watched the movies and it seems to me that The Wheel of Time has more good vs evil, and plot twists then LOTR does.
LOTR seems straight forward, with clear definitions of who is good and who is evil. You can even predict what will happen in the movies or games (by games, I am referring to Battle for Middle Earth or an XBOX 360 game~
).
What he said.,.. I love reading books just not this type.
Re: The Wheel of Time
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:24 pm
by Melian
there is a pretty well definition of good and evil in the Wheel of Time. If you want a series that blurs the definitions of good vs. evil i would highly recommend Godslayer and Banewrecker by Jacqueline Carey.