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Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:04 am
by RoKeT
Okay I do not claim to be Intelligent but I know I have smart friends, someone help me wrap my head around this so please someone help me.... If scientist have found "the end of the universe" you know where it's going to "stop expanding" and start Receding back, does this mean, that all of this has done before... I mean if the Universe really is one big "Rubber Band" with the "Snap back and forth" I mean... We'd be dumb to think this was the first time it ever happened Right? So I guess my question is... Have we done it all before?

I'm not claiming I'm 100 Percent right about things... and i might even have my facts confused, but if that was true, as I watched it on History Channel yesterday...

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:14 am
by Ashu
No, its the first time this happened and the last. In the laws of the Universe, what goes up doesn't necessarily mean it'll come down.

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:16 am
by RoKeT
but thats not the theory, the "new" theory at wat I've been informed with...

is that the Universe constantly expands until a point, which they have supposidly found, at which point we will start to compress back to an unbeliveable density, which in the ends causes our "Rubber Band" Universe to explode again and the big bang happense over and over again... so with that Theory... would my question not be accurate?

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:18 am
by Ashu
The theory is false, thus the question invalid.

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:19 am
by RoKeT
and when the **Filtered** did you become a scientest?

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:23 am
by Ashu
I'm not a "scientest" Roket but as a man that reads and is interested in such things i can tell you that the "theory" will probably change in the next 50 years or so as it changed throughout the course of history. I can begin by telling you that not all that you see on TV is true and if a man with PhD in front of his name said something, its not necessarily true.

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:24 am
by GOLDEN WING
never doubt the smartz of the Ash #-o
:-D :-D :-D

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:26 am
by Jim
Are you posing a hypothetical question or demanding an answer to an incredibly complex scientific problem?
Nobody on here can give a real answer that that question if you meant it scientifically.
Plenty of people can give a hypothetical answer as you have already done ;)


Ashu, STHU my friend. theories are theories. Unless you can prove a better theory then either GTHO or take this theory to be a theory.
theory.

I pretty much mirror SS's sentiments but he got there first damn it

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:28 am
by Ashu
Jimbabe, I don't need to swallow someone's **Filtered** just because its in front of me. We've been fed enough crap over the course of history for me to be able to keep it in!

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:30 am
by RoKeT
Fine then Ash if that is yoru thoughts then answer me this

If Energy can not be Created and or Destroyed, then where the hell did our Energy come from, if it is impossible to take energy away from existance, and it is impossible to create Energy itself... where does our energy go, where does it start, how does it work? you don't have to talk about the universe then answer my basic question, if we have existed before us, does this not mean that "we" as in our "energy" has it not done it all before?

it is not a scientific question, as truthfully I'm more of a Quantum guy then I am about the Universe, it is more of a question between intellect, a thought, yoru theory your hypothisis, I guess what I was trying to ask was

If the Theory is true, woudl that not completely kill "god" would that not completely kill the argument, I mena hell they found you can make living things out of gases, should that not have killed our idiotic believe that a "greater" being created us, woudl that not kill the fact that we really did just evolve to our states, I mean hell, didn't they belive they found the missing link, or brought us one step closer to it,

does this not mean that the thought of a god is obsolete, does that not mean that we really are a collection of energy merged into a physical form, does that not mean when we

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:35 am
by Ashu
A theory, generally speaking is a cohesive collection of arguments. These arguments are solidified into theory by factual representations. That being said, you cannot prove that anything will happen unless you either saw it or can do it.


I for one believe that God exists and that the end of the world will come when its time, by His hand and not by this most poetic mathematically made painting.

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:45 am
by [KMA]Avenger
man, talk about deep lol


as far as this rubber band theory goes, the theory is this (for those that dont know), as we all know and has been proven by Hubble (The man and the telescope lol), the universe is expanding, it was only natural that someone would then ask...what will happen in the end?! will the universe reach a critical point of expansion that will ultimately cause a reversal of the expansion (an implosion if you will)?

or will the "rubber band" snap causing everything in the universe to just be thrown outwards at incredible velocity?

personally, i think that theory cannot be proven right or wrong until such time as either the universe goes flying off in every direction into god knows where....

or everything starts to get drawn back into the centre....in which case i will see you all in a few billion years, and this time i will be the first to play SGW and will make you all my slaves, and will try and give my future self the lottery numbers :-D

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:50 am
by Jim
Roket, in response to your discussion on God:
Steven Hawkins, considered the greatest scientific philosopher/scientist of our time, believes that God (or a deity of some sort) created existence as a whole. He says that the more he studies the universe the more he is led to believe this.

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:53 am
by Lithium
roket , we havent existed b4 and we aint energy. when our DNA code will be fully explained then we ll know our full history where we came from and who created us.
the biblical phrase let us make man in our image does it ring any bell??? its said -us- there were more .......

just to add check for ancient aliens episodes in history channel

Re: Somone answer this please!

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:06 am
by RoKeT
lol yes, but just because it is written in the bible does not make it so, I believe ARE Energy... If anything, I think that has been proven to the T, that Humans are nothing but Energy... as in life, that is my question

if the gases that make up living oranisims came together and created the first single cell organisim, and that evolved, as have we and everything we've seen evolution does happen

then how do we just "show up" I think if anything with our sciences it proves that bible really is just one hell of a story made up by man, god does not claim to write the bible so I'm not saying he doesn't exist just... don't bring up quotes from mere men that are thousands of years behind our times, if anything bible thumping hurts debates because it is so assinine that it shouldn't even be considered in debates... Sorry I'm harsh just sometimes I do like to show people I'm smarter then I act lol... and now is one of those times... and i"m truley curious

see you all do basic info aswell though...

The theroy that we run on a "wave" that Time runs on a "Wave.... and that the Universe runs on a "wave" and all those "waves' are nothing but Energy... What really seperates the difference between, Our Energy and that of Time, heat, colliosion... I am sorry but with all the research I have done... does this not prove... Energy... is all that we know is real... and with that being said... Energy always recycles... so why would we believe that our energy woudln't just recycle?

Sorry this is hard to follow, and there are a few subjects as I've said, I dont' consider myself smart and if anything I am FAR from knowledgible about the subject... just wondering with all these facts... what are your theories... again these are my theories I claim nothing that they are real... just trying to have a talk with some people who can understand wat I'm asking not everyoen else lol