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Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:31 am
by noone
Is it true that it is possible to be on perpetual PPT if you spent $$ ?
If so ... whats your thoughts on this ?
I think it stinks and it should be limited ....
As this indeed gives money spenders an advantage one can not achieve without spending $$.
Nostra
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:32 am
by Ashu
As far a i know you can't. Don't know the specific tho.
Even if you could why would you? :S
Where would the fun be?
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:33 am
by jedi~tank

its possible for sure

Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:34 am
by doc savage
Mittenz wrote:As far a i know you can't. Don't know the specific tho.
Even if you could why would you? :S
Where would the fun be?
There is an example of it hiding out in the land of week long PPT on the server right now.

Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:35 am
by Ashu
doc savage wrote:Mittenz wrote:As far a i know you can't. Don't know the specific tho.
Even if you could why would you? :S
Where would the fun be?
There is an example of it hiding out in the land of week long PPT on the server right now.

Yes, 2 PPTs with MT's then you ascend. But you can't ascend every week...
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:36 am
by Q Man
well, i see how this could be annoying, but i was under the belief that money spenders were meant to have a slight advantage due to the spending of money?
and how much harm can be done by an extra ppt?
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:38 am
by noone
Mittenz wrote:As far a i know you can't. Don't know the specific tho.
Even if you could why would you? :S
Where would the fun be?
It seems you can, as we indeed are observing someone who is likely doing it .. and no .. there is no ascension involved.
One could do it to hide or protect its investement and keep a high rank ....
Fun ... not sure ... depands on what you like I guess.
Q Man wrote:well, i see how this could be annoying, but i was under the belief that money spenders were meant to have a slight advantage due to the spending of money?
and how much harm can be done by an extra ppt?
Well 1 extra ppt wouldnt matter that much .... but euhm ... say you have a high income ... and have a high UP ....
In effect ... that effort could work out to provide you with the $$ needed to stay on PPT forever.
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:45 am
by [BoT] Jason
Lets see, you are only allowed 2 PPT's per a week via the market. Whether you bought it with $ or MT's you are still only allowed 2...
So out the top of my head you can only have 372 hours of PPT
[spoiler]Thurs-Sat First PPT
Sat-Mon Second PPT
Mon-Tues Alliance 2 weeks build up PPT
Tues-Thurs First PPT
Thurs-Sat Second PPT
Sat-Mon Ascend
Mon-Wed First PPT
Wed-Thurs Second PPT
Thurs monring-Thurs evening Alliance weeks build up of PPT[/spoiler]
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:53 am
by noone
Jason... wrote:Lets see, you are only allowed 2 PPT's per a week via the market. Whether you bought it with $ or MT's you are still only allowed 2...
So out the top of my head you can only have 372 hours of PPT
[spoiler]Thurs-Sat First PPT
Sat-Mon Second PPT
Mon-Tues Alliance 2 weeks build up PPT
Tues-Thurs First PPT
Thurs-Sat Second PPT
Sat-Mon Ascend
Mon-Wed First PPT
Wed-Thurs Second PPT
Thurs monring-Thurs evening Alliance weeks build up of PPT[/spoiler]
Well there was no ascensions involved as the account in question is already an unknown.
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:01 am
by Eelyzabth
ok, bear with me, I am thinking its done like this, ppt 48 hrs, spend the day buying 10$ worth of whatever every 1.5 hrs (utilising the negative ppt time), 12 hours (sell what you bought on cash market) ppt again that evening 48 hrs, 12 hours alliance ppt over night, spend the day buying ppts again, 12 hours...
thats (gets out fingers and toes) 5.5 days, if you started the first ppt just before reset monday this would get you into your next week, and you'd basically get 11 days of ppt, then you have 1 day of being online and vac mode for a few days, and do it again, this way you get to only be online 1 day in every 2 weeks!
its a sad way to play, but it would work
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:06 am
by noone
Eelyzabth wrote:ok, bear with me, I am thinking its done like this, ppt 48 hrs, spend the day buying 10$ worth of whatever every 1.5 hrs (utilising the negative ppt time), 12 hours (sell what you bought on cash market) ppt again that evening 48 hrs, 12 hours alliance ppt over night, spend the day buying ppts again, 12 hours...
thats (gets out fingers and toes) 5.5 days, if you started the first ppt just before reset monday this would get you into your next week, and you'd basically get 11 days of ppt, then you have 1 day of being online and vac mode for a few days, and do it again, this way you get to only be online 1 day in every 2 weeks!
its a sad way to play, but it would work
Oi that sounds plausbile ...
Cant realy say I'm fond of that idea though :\
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:10 am
by Kjarkur
Wouldn't mind if I were admin though

Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:13 am
by kojak
Hehehe, Yeah Definately possible lol.
Kojak,
Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:28 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
alliance ppt only adds a max of 12 hours per week...
although you could string them together around a market reset,
that presents a new problem:
---- only under certain conditions:
benefits which take your PPT over 48 hours get cut off...
I've tested to be sure...
have to be in an alliance for 5+ days to be eligible...
alliance ppt cost 6 bil bank upgrade use per hour used...
they can easily cut a small alliance bank or a slow growing alliance bank off at the knees...
Nostra, how long have you been observing this?
and are person or persons in an alliance?
of course, it's theoretically possible that someone is online often enough
to take almost immediate advantage of qualifying server outages...
Though qualifying server outages happen very rarely now...
and still couldn't get them anywhere close to 6 days of ppt on the week
following a properly timed ascension...
if they were buying stuff off the black market from the holiday bonus,
the black market dished out 720 minutes, [12 hours], of ppt when i got my 20k attack turns,
(which was pointless in my case),
subsequent black market purchases during holiday bonus did not add anything noticeable to the ppt I took a week later... until the purchase i made while off ppt...
I think that gave 60 minutes... plus negative ppt time...
still, the person would have to be online and ingame every 90 minutes for extended periods of time...
even if we were talking rank 1 stats...
not likely to be worth it... it's not only a sad way to play, it's a sad way to live...
or the person you are referring to found a major bug...
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Re: Perpetual PPT
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:05 am
by Eelyzabth
yes, the person Nostra is refering to is in a large well established alliance, so alliance ppt would be no issue here,
the person is not ascnding, if they were it would be easier
as a 2 week ascender I can guarentee that using alliance ppt and the free ascending ppt, its possible to be on ppt for a solid 16 days!! (i tried it once just to see, it was the most boring 2 weeks of my life, I eventually gave in and used an extra ppt for merlins)
)wk1:1:friday 12.00GT to sunday 12.00,
wk1:2: sunday 12.00 GT tuesday 12.00 (alliance ppt used just before turn change monday adds 12 hours to this ppt) takes you to tuesday night 23.59...
wk2 : 1 ppt tuesday night to thursday night , 23.59,
wk2:2 thursday night to saturday night, 23.59
ascend, free ppt saturday till monday, plus alliance 12 hour tuesday 11.59 GT..
wk3:1 tuesday 11.59 til thursday 11.59
wk3:2 thursday til saturday 11.59
and with the extra 30 mins a go you get as negative count time, thats a bit over 16 days LOL!!