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Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:01 am
by renegadze
Well after watching a tv programme last night, it gave me the idea. When someone dies that has fallen from grace, their soul can't quite pass over and they are left in pergatory.

That being said, how about, if you are descended you are sent to pergatory?

Now on the face of it, it looks like it would be a good place to go to hide\recover, But the person being set there would be stripped of all AT's (I don't believe they should be traded, so they just lose them). and of course they'll be stripped of their bonuses, making them an easy target for other normal perg players.

As a team game, this would obviously have a knock on effect, as the person in perg won't be able to trade with the normal realm, thereby helping their friends out.

Being descended simply doesn't seem to bother anyone anymore, so lets add the stigma of "being sent to pergatory"

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:03 am
by Tek
As long as that girl from being human is there im sold :smt047

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:07 am
by Field Marshall
Tek wrote:As long as that girl from being human is there im sold :smt047


Your so odd :roll:

I like this idea...it's funny :D

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:36 am
by Rottenking
this idea has merit

it should be a punishment more than it is now, as ascended is just an account you keep to get the % bonus ingame

adding to your idea, could also have a plague effecting those sent to perg, which strips them of uu to try to get them under the perg cap


but that being said, the same needs to be said for those already in perg, it should force them from perg into main, with a 5 day wait to get back into it, it has to be fair and this would make it fair for both styles of play in my opinion (if this was to come into effect)

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:43 am
by Lithium
since the descension process is very hard then the punishment shall be decent aswell.

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:50 am
by noone
Sounds like an idea ....

But ... I would suggest having something to counter those in ascended with near undescendable status too ....

Like .. a way to downsize ones mnec or life force for instance ...

Make more people susceptable to being descended and its a nice idea .. not just make it more worse for those being descended.

Perhaps .. loose some mnec while doing an ascended attack ?

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:28 am
by renegadze
Nostra wrote:Sounds like an idea ....

But ... I would suggest having something to counter those in ascended with near undescendable status too ....

Like .. a way to downsize ones mnec or life force for instance ...

Make more people susceptable to being descended and its a nice idea .. not just make it more worse for those being descended.

Perhaps .. loose some mnec while doing an ascended attack ?


Well I actually agree with the point of making more people at risk, I hate seeing undescendable people...I don't think it should be so easy to refill LF.

But downgrading mnec after an attack is a terrible idea. You know the cost to build a large mnec? There would actually be less descensions if this was brought in, as more people would then be undescendable.

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:12 am
by [BoT] Jason
Well if your going to send them to perg it is a must that all but 12 mil of your miners get destroyed...Else it can still be abusified...

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:56 am
by noone
renegadze wrote:But downgrading mnec after an attack is a terrible idea. You know the cost to build a large mnec? There would actually be less descensions if this was brought in, as more people would then be undescendable.


True ... in a lot of situations ...
Hmm ...
How about an active descender becomes more susceptable to LF and LF reserves damage for a certain period ?
Also has its downsides though ...
The reason I'm stating this is realy the same as MS's ... they just keep growing as your account grows older (if your busy with that anywaysz)
And eventualy, the gap between new and old become even greater ... Thinking of a way to level the potential differences with equal uppertunity ....

This is why I'm trying to look into level degredation or power degredation in certain situations ....

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:46 am
by renegadze
Nostra wrote:
renegadze wrote:But downgrading mnec after an attack is a terrible idea. You know the cost to build a large mnec? There would actually be less descensions if this was brought in, as more people would then be undescendable.


True ... in a lot of situations ...
Hmm ...
How about an active descender becomes more susceptable to LF and LF reserves damage for a certain period ?
Also has its downsides though ...
The reason I'm stating this is realy the same as MS's ... they just keep growing as your account grows older (if your busy with that anywaysz)
And eventualy, the gap between new and old become even greater ... Thinking of a way to level the potential differences with equal uppertunity ....

This is why I'm trying to look into level degredation or power degredation in certain situations ....


Well when descending someone, I believe there is still a max hit you can carry out, meaning someone with a lower TOC can can cause as much dmg to certain targets as a larger TOC for descending.

But the fact the LF can be refilled instantly per login is plain wrong, especially as some people take days to descend...if every person on main was active on ascended, then you could almost take the descension option away as it wouldn't work lol

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:58 am
by GOLDEN WING
also add not being able to attack anyone if over the perg limit being 30m army =P (allow them to kill of their army in the Galactic Chamber for 0 money) Effectively making them an easy target for all of perg players noobs - Exp players there :)

Re: Descension

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:09 pm
by Jorgensen
I wouldn't want more crossserver features i the game.
It is boring that the ascended server has anything to do with the main server.
It is a cool deal with the ascended server but it shouldn't matter in main what you do in ascended.
Or you could make a feature that makes main able to mess up your ascended account.

In big wars it is easy once massed to not build new stats in main and if you have a good ascended only play from that location. As i said boring

Re: Descension

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:09 am
by renegadze
Jorgensen wrote:I wouldn't want more crossserver features i the game.
It is boring that the ascended server has anything to do with the main server.
It is a cool deal with the ascended server but it shouldn't matter in main what you do in ascended.
Or you could make a feature that makes main able to mess up your ascended account.

In big wars it is easy once massed to not build new stats in main and if you have a good ascended only play from that location. As i said boring


lol of course they're linked, that's kind of the point! You receive an ascended account on your first ascension, if anything the 2 servers should be a lot more entwined. If people wish to be an ascended being and not bother to look after their ascended self, then this should have a direct impact to your main account.

Re: Descension

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:58 pm
by Sarevok
Nostra wrote:Sounds like an idea ....

But ... I would suggest having something to counter those in ascended with near undescendable status too ....

Like .. a way to downsize ones mnec or life force for instance ...

Make more people susceptable to being descended and its a nice idea .. not just make it more worse for those being descended.

Perhaps .. loose some mnec while doing an ascended attack ?
Why not have the ability to sacrifice all your lifeforce to take out the same life force (or 50% of your total) from the opponent. You are de-ascended, but would bring your allies alot closer to de-ascending the un-deascendable.

Re: Descension

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:06 pm
by stuff of legends
hmm interesting but with disadvantages descension brings i doubt anyone would do that, might end up getting a bit abused, multi accounts ascend once and powerplay ascended, just keep buying mnec until they have a decent amount and just suicide on people.