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Maybe there should be double descension, the second removes an ascended level

the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Rocky wrote:the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Worst idea ever.

dastupy wrote:

Rocky wrote:the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Worst idea ever.

The game is way too built up atm, with players who have played a while being completely unreachable to newcomers, ascentions is one of the big problems for new players.
i know you love your lovely unknown account, and so do i, but its not great for the game when it takes over a year to ascend to unknown, and all the while you have a rubbish covert level and are dead in the water if some big player wants to sit on you.

Its also one of the reasons why there are only large empires in the game atm, and no small or middle independant alliances

first thing that needs to be fixed though is when you ascend the AP conversion needs to be more, it should probably increase with ascensions (not so much that people want to lose a level to ascend again for the juice on ascended server), that way noobs cant get almighty accounts straight away when they hit the ascended server.
Point being what you get from ascending for ascended is ridiculous. As tekki was talking about in the IRC. Also i think this recent talk should be split off into another thread.

dastupy wrote:

Rocky wrote:the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Worst idea ever.

Why do you think that?

stuff of legends wrote:

dastupy wrote:

Rocky wrote:the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Worst idea ever.

Why do you think that?

Actaully, that's being able to Ascend beyond AG

But seriously, I think the idea needs to be developed somehow. Firstly de-ascending someone needs to be easier (dunno if this has been done yet), and second, how would you go about de-ascending someone again. I don't think it should be if they've ever been before. But something more like in the last 3 months.

We should also have methods of destroying accounts properly. But that's for another thread

i think this is a stupid idea that should be ignored by admin jason



why would people bother 2 ascend if this could happen?

dastupy wrote:

Rocky wrote:the third deletes your account

but seriously, i think yours might be a good idea sol, might even make the game more even, if you descend someone they lose one ascention and have to ascend again.

Worst idea ever.

This ^

Being descened on the Ascended Server should not erase TONS of hard work in Main Server. Especially when it can happen due to simple negligence. Someone who is UnKnown being bumped down and having to face the choice of no longer being UnKnown or losing something like Spy Level 38, raw UP, MS Techs... what ever else. That's simply unreasonable.

I disagree and say that's one of the major problems with the game now. The inability to "destroy" someone. Seriously, remove "everything" and still have:
lvl36+ covert
lvl35+ AC
200k+ UP
200m+ lifers
3T+ MSs fully rebuilt with a few trillion naq
1-2 Dual planets merlined permanently

Its more like 3-4 day inconvenience then a consequence.

Why remove the only option to level large players?
Of course the idea will need fine tuning, when someone gets descended give them a few day ppt on ascended, but by the time the first descension is executed someone should know to log onto the ascended server more often...

Balance the ascended server, reset it and let's roll


Considering how long the ascended server has been neglected by the game administration, it is no wonder that many have neglected their accounts there. Punishing them for doing so would be counterproductive.

So if you want the ascended server to affect main more, then reset is the only fair option

bit unfair for those that have spent alot of time on their account.

Reset and convert the DMU spent on ascended into banked naq on main (to avoid a farm fest)


Then we have game...

I do feel it necessary to have descension punish you more for failing

deni wrote:Balance the ascended server, reset it and let's roll


Considering how long the ascended server has been neglected by the game administration, it is no wonder that many have neglected their accounts there. Punishing them for doing so would be counterproductive.

So if you want the ascended server to affect main more, then reset is the only fair option