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Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:16 pm
by Vicarious
Would like to know how the game calculates the minimum fleets a player needs to steal a given planet.
For example, is it a small rounded-off percentage of the planet's defence?
Also the minimum number of fleets needed to attack a planet without losing all fleets.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much.
~Vicarious
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:23 pm
by Z E R O
15% of planet defence

Or fleets will not initiate in attack.
As a member of SISU, I would think your alliancemates would be a good place to go for valuable infromation or tips

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:25 pm
by Vicarious
They are busy and I am impatient

Thanks very much.
15%+ To Steal a planet and ...% to just attack it?
~Vicarious
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:28 pm
by Z E R O
you need 100% of total defences to steal..

15% = minimum possible to send an attack... so that your fleets can mass the planet's defences.
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:36 pm
by Vicarious
Hehe sorry, haven't played in a long time
Also just being stupid

Thanks for the help

~Vicarious
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:39 pm
by Z E R O
No probs ;P
Good luck taking the planet you're after haha.
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:45 pm
by stuff of legends
and 10% if it has platforms on it.
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:45 pm
by BMMJ13
15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:04 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
lol... indeed...

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:08 pm
by BarelyAllen
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:11 pm
by BMMJ13
amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:29 pm
by The Iron Duke
BMMJ13 wrote:amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.
First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542
I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:49 pm
by BMMJ13
The Iron Duke wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.
First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542
I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...
Platforms are bugged that they show double losses in logs/ME. The platform(s) you destroyed were only 290k or so, about 900 bil. Well below the 10% for ~120 bil fleets, however not above 30% (hence showing devestating).
Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:24 am
by The Iron Duke
Thanks for clearing that up for me
