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Vulcurum wrote:Ah the times of CFE... It was a long, long, long time ago. I remember staying there until I was satisfied with my amount of ascensions, then joined EPA just to take part on the faction war... Good times. And JUAN.. haven't heard that name in 5(!?) years... There was much talk about him among UTA and VTA.

Once JUAN openly moved against a couple of Omegans, he knew his time was up. He had a nice little multi called CASPAIN all set up to hit Omegans. And he foolishly thought I wouldn't find out. lol

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Vulcurum wrote:Ah the times of CFE... It was a long, long, long time ago. I remember staying there until I was satisfied with my amount of ascensions, then joined EPA just to take part on the faction war... Good times. And JUAN.. haven't heard that name in 5(!?) years... There was much talk about him among UTA and VTA.

Once JUAN openly moved against a couple of Omegans, he knew his time was up. He had a nice little multi called CASPAIN all set up to hit Omegans. And he foolishly thought I wouldn't find out. lol

I like how you remember all this, good old glory days.

Juliette wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Vulcurum wrote:Ah the times of CFE... It was a long, long, long time ago. I remember staying there until I was satisfied with my amount of ascensions, then joined EPA just to take part on the faction war... Good times. And JUAN.. haven't heard that name in 5(!?) years... There was much talk about him among UTA and VTA.

Once JUAN openly moved against a couple of Omegans, he knew his time was up. He had a nice little multi called CASPAIN all set up to hit Omegans. And he foolishly thought I wouldn't find out. lol

I like how you remember all this, good old glory days.

I have records still of all that stuff. Some of the stuff we did was glorious, puts mere massing far in the shade.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Juliette wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Vulcurum wrote:Ah the times of CFE... It was a long, long, long time ago. I remember staying there until I was satisfied with my amount of ascensions, then joined EPA just to take part on the faction war... Good times. And JUAN.. haven't heard that name in 5(!?) years... There was much talk about him among UTA and VTA.

Once JUAN openly moved against a couple of Omegans, he knew his time was up. He had a nice little multi called CASPAIN all set up to hit Omegans. And he foolishly thought I wouldn't find out. lol

I like how you remember all this, good old glory days.

I have records still of all that stuff. Some of the stuff we did was glorious, puts mere massing far in the shade.

Wasn't Caspian the one that used the loophole in planets and had like one attk soldier trained and everything else like planets which gave him a massive strike and was able to mass you all with no loss to him bar repairing one weapon?

Avitir wrote:Wasn't Caspian the one that used the loophole in planets and had like one attk soldier trained and everything else like planets which gave him a massive strike and was able to mass you all with no loss to him bar repairing one weapon?

You are right Avitir, Caspian was never in Crystal Force so can a mod split the discussion please?

My recollection is that Caspian massed OE using Planets (not long after they were first introduced).
Jason corrected the update after OE reported it as bug abuse (or something to that affect).

Much later on Metal Messiah and Juan owned up to funding Caspian (with a significant amount of naq but I don't know the exact details) to mass OE. I am sure ETL would know the exact details.

lmao this thread woke me up! I was thinking..**Filtered** have I been hacked again?! lol

But yes the Caspain account wasn't in CF, although it was owned by JUAN. The funny thing is that the Metal Messiah account, collectively owned by a bunch of old TA leaders, most know who they are, used to complain like hell about JUAN cheating and yet had no qualms about joining up with a guy THEY thought was cheating. One of the reasons I don't have any respect for that bunch. The current TA leadership are vastly changed and more in the spirit of their founder Opti.

And yes Caspain massed 2-3 accounts in Omega before it was caught out and banned I believe. I think it was Jake's and Reborn's accounts that were massed.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:lmao this thread woke me up! I was thinking..**Filtered** have I been hacked again?! lol

But yes the Caspain account wasn't in CF, although it was owned by JUAN. The funny thing is that the Metal Messiah account, collectively owned by a bunch of old TA leaders, most know who they are, used to complain like hell about JUAN cheating and yet had no qualms about joining up with a guy THEY thought was cheating. One of the reasons I don't have any respect for that bunch. The current TA leadership are vastly changed and more in the spirit of their founder Opti.

And yes Caspain massed 2-3 accounts in Omega before it was caught out and banned I believe. I think it was Jake's and Reborn's accounts that were massed.

For the record your accusations are against a bunch of ex TA players who did none of this while they were in TA We were in no way associated with the alliance "Old Skool TA" except for them every once in awhile trying to recruit our members lol. Old Skool TA's members left TA and formed Shagadellic Warriors about the time Opti left (give or take a month or two). TA leadership has stayed fairly similar over the years aside from losing such greats as Nox, Mane and Oneill to old age, may they someday return.

Ooh and Hawkeye if anyone remembers him...I do

As for Caspain, well, his account got around quite about after he sold it, which some people in this convo know about

I thought it was Jake, Reborn, and STI as a stating point for Caspian cause they were all brothers who had large accounts and some people questioned the legitimacy of their accounts and whether the 'brothers' were multis themselves.

I am not saying that they were multis but am just saying that that was the 'excuse' for why they were hit first if my memory serves me correctly.

JUAN god thats going back remember in the EFA/UTA day we hated him that much our **Filtered** came up JUAN instead.

did it ever get actualy proven he was cheating i'v been off and on tht much that i never seen it i knew he was thou

I love juan and metal messiah...

Jixxi wrote:JUAN god thats going back remember in the EFA/UTA day we hated him that much our **Filtered** came up JUAN instead.

did it ever get actualy proven he was cheating i'v been off and on tht much that i never seen it i knew he was thou

Do you know JUAN was actually banned in a couple of other games for trying the same tricks he tried here.

And yes Math..I did say EX TA. And they are not accusations, there's plenty of records how THEY believed JUAN was a cheat.

As for the three Js, I do believe some people on here have actually met them in person. Yes they shared resources and helped each other build up. For instance everyone used to go on about STI's account, not knowing that Jake and reborn helped build it. Reborn was probably the greatest farmer during that phase of the game. He carried on this into WoW too.

ETL you should post some of your old info if you still have it just for a laugh

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jixxi wrote:JUAN god thats going back remember in the EFA/UTA day we hated him that much our **Filtered** came up JUAN instead.

did it ever get actualy proven he was cheating i'v been off and on tht much that i never seen it i knew he was thou

And yes Math..I did say EX TA. And they are not accusations, there's plenty of records how THEY believed JUAN was a cheat.

You said old TA leaders. I just wanted to clarify that none of this was done by people in TA. The Old Skool TA members weren't around much longer than Opti and certainly didn't run anything after the disappearance as that was Evilhomer then Fury then our HC system. The real TA was the members that stuck around when Opti disappeared and did damn hard work to rebuild our alliance and keep it going for these *gulp* 6 years

We're all old now Where did my cane go?

i took it mathlord the wife loves it

For those of us who watched and talked to JUAN at the time it was pretty obvious he was a lousy cheat, and not even good at it.

Good times...