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I have some questions regarding the last three or four ascensions, so OoE, UnS to UnK. Are there any factual differences between them in terms of AB, stats within farming/ massing and if so, which? Because it seems to me that the only thing differentiating them are names and some obscure on-paper stats increase.

Origin of Existence -> Unspeakable -> Unnamed -> Unknown

6-8% extra AB
and I think 4%? extra in all other stats

Moved

Believe OoE is 44% Stat, 54% AB
UnS is 45% Stat, 56% AB
UnN is 46% Stat, 58% AB
UnK is 47% Stat, 60% AB

For Comparison, AG is about 35% Stat, 34% AB

Between OoE and UnK there is 3% in Stat difference, and 6% in AB.

That means that if you had a base attack of 10 tril, an OoE would have 14.4 Tril, while a UnK would have 14.7 Tril. Because of the AB difference, this means that the OoE would have 14.4 Tril roughly 46% of the time and 28.8 Tril 54% of the time, while Unknown would have 14.7 Tril roughly 40% of the time and 29.4 Tril 60% of the time.

This would give the OoE account an average of 22.176 Tril attack, while the Unknown would have an average of 23.52 Tril attack. Not a huge difference, but a difference.

BMMJ13 wrote:Moved

Believe OoE is 44% Stat, 54% AB
UnS is 45% Stat, 56% AB
UnN is 46% Stat, 58% AB
UnK is 47% Stat, 60% AB

For Comparison, AG is about 35% Stat, 34% AB

Between OoE there is 3% in Stat difference, and 6% in AB.

That means that if you had a base attack of 10 tril, an OoE would have 14.4 Tril, while a UnK would have 14.7 Tril. Because of the AB difference, this means that the OoE would have 14.4 Tril roughly 46% of the time and 28.8 Tril 54% of the time, while Unknown would have 14.7 Tril roughly 40% of the time and 29.4 Tril 60% of the time.

This would give the OoE account an average of 22.176 Tril attack, while the Unknown would have an average of 23.52 Tril attack. Not a huge difference, but a difference.

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BMMJ13 wrote:Moved

Believe OoE is 44% Stat, 54% AB
UnS is 45% Stat, 56% AB
UnN is 46% Stat, 58% AB
UnK is 47% Stat, 60% AB

For Comparison, AG is about 35% Stat, 34% AB

Between OoE and UnK there is 3% in Stat difference, and 6% in AB.

That means that if you had a base attack of 10 tril, an OoE would have 14.4 Tril, while a UnK would have 14.7 Tril. Because of the AB difference, this means that the OoE would have 14.4 Tril roughly 46% of the time and 28.8 Tril 54% of the time, while Unknown would have 14.7 Tril roughly 40% of the time and 29.4 Tril 60% of the time.

This would give the OoE account an average of 22.176 Tril attack, while the Unknown would have an average of 23.52 Tril attack. Not a huge difference, but a difference.

60% AB on paper I'm in a house that gives me additional 5% bonus, and i'll be damn, most of the opponents im massing get double the AB compared to me.

So yeah, in theory, that would be a correct number, but ingame, i have no idea what it depends on.

E

PS: I don't think i'll ever get 650 AB out of 1000 hits

Easy^ wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:Moved

Believe OoE is 44% Stat, 54% AB
UnS is 45% Stat, 56% AB
UnN is 46% Stat, 58% AB
UnK is 47% Stat, 60% AB

For Comparison, AG is about 35% Stat, 34% AB

Between OoE and UnK there is 3% in Stat difference, and 6% in AB.

That means that if you had a base attack of 10 tril, an OoE would have 14.4 Tril, while a UnK would have 14.7 Tril. Because of the AB difference, this means that the OoE would have 14.4 Tril roughly 46% of the time and 28.8 Tril 54% of the time, while Unknown would have 14.7 Tril roughly 40% of the time and 29.4 Tril 60% of the time.

This would give the OoE account an average of 22.176 Tril attack, while the Unknown would have an average of 23.52 Tril attack. Not a huge difference, but a difference.

60% AB on paper I'm in a house that gives me additional 5% bonus, and i'll be damn, most of the opponents im massing get double the AB compared to me.

So yeah, in theory, that would be a correct number, but ingame, i have no idea what it depends on.

E

PS: I don't think i'll ever get 650 AB out of 1000 hits

That's what i'm talking about. Are the stats and AB only on paper or is there any sizable difference between OoE/UnS and UnK?

I guess it all comes down to how lucky you are. I'm pretty sure the 65% doesn't count for 1000 or even 10000 hits, but its for a bigger number, so if you get farmed a lot, you might not get much when you're actually farming.

Its is silly Don't depend on the bonus too much. I thought it was going to be a big difference, but now i think i was wrong back then

Easy^ wrote:I guess it all comes down to how lucky you are. I'm pretty sure the 65% doesn't count for 1000 or even 10000 hits, but its for a bigger number, so if you get farmed a lot, you might not get much when you're actually farming.

Its is silly Don't depend on the bonus too much. I thought it was going to be a big difference, but now i think i was wrong back then

Thank you very much for your answer!

Malx wrote:

Easy^ wrote:I guess it all comes down to how lucky you are. I'm pretty sure the 65% doesn't count for 1000 or even 10000 hits, but its for a bigger number, so if you get farmed a lot, you might not get much when you're actually farming.

Its is silly Don't depend on the bonus too much. I thought it was going to be a big difference, but now i think i was wrong back then

Thank you very much for your answer!

Each hit you have a 60% chance for AB at UnKnown (or 65% in AB House). If you are unlucky, you can get 20 hits in a row with no AB, while if you are lucky you can get 20 hits with AB. I'd imagine if you looked at a long enough time frame, you would get basically what your chance is for each hit. People just tend to notice when they are unlucky more often than lucky, especially when it is say an UnKnown hitting a LG that gets 5 ABs in a row.