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What could be interesting for Priors is a possibility to -instead of ascend- rapidly expand their 'planets' on ascended, perhaps through the investment of GnR and resources.. might make the starting-up in ascended a little easier as well.

Target audience: Priors
Interest: Making Ascended easier to start playing, removing only the bottom end of having to wait ages for your account to be viable.
Proposed mechanism: Instead of just offering the 'Ascend' button, offer a 'Convert' button, which will allow a player to 'Ascend' without gaining a level, but with direct conversion of their stats (as with a usual ascension) into Planets on Ascended.
Balancing: There would be a maximum, and cost would go up at each 100M added, capped at 1B. As a courtesy to currently ascended players; a one-time offer to all, currently ascended to Prophet+, to convert a sum of GnR+Resources into max 100M planets.

This is a one-shot deal, use it once, and you cannot use it again. It could help a newly ascended Prior to get their ascended account at 'playing level' (500M-5B for a starter) sooner.

To clarify: Will this will be just like an ascension, i.e your whole deck is wiped? or just 'stats' as you say?

An interesting proposal though. I'll have to think on it.

Not only a great idea, but also has the possibility to add/remove and change any way needed. This should be an interesting thread.

stuff of legends wrote:To clarify: Will this will be just like an ascension, i.e your whole deck is wiped? or just 'stats' as you say?

I thought of it as an ascension, i.e. a complete wipe, yes. More stats, equals a higher return in planets.
Note; The 'courtesy conversion' to balance things out would not be a complete wipe, but a literal conversion of resources. That would only be fair, since that is capped at 100M..

The standard conversion rate for APP could work as a base guideline for this?

Good idea, that would make ascended interesting and more playable for newly ascended ones.

I would say, instead of once at the first ascension, make it say up to LG.
i.e for your first ascension you have to ascend, to actually get the account, then from your second ascension up to and including incarnate (that leaves three possibilities) you have a choice, to bolster your ascended account purely from the energy of ascension, or to ascend. Once you ascend you ascend, if you choose to powerup the next 1k gnr will only lead to the possibility to ascend.
Max planets i reckon should be in the vicinity of a 300 mill constant, so it leaves them with an absolute minimum of attacking people with 1.5 bill planets (+ a possibility of 900 mill total from the three conversions). Which is a decent helping hand for a noob. Anymore and it would be like giving a shotgun to a kid and telling him to put down a mouse.

stuff of legends wrote:I would say, instead of once at the first ascension, make it say up to LG.
i.e for your first ascension you have to ascend, to actually get the account, then from your second ascension up to and including incarnate (that leaves three possibilities) you have a choice, to bolster your ascended account purely from the energy of ascension, or to ascend. Once you ascend you ascend, if you choose to powerup the next 1k gnr will only lead to the possibility to ascend.
Max planets i reckon should be in the vicinity of a 300 mill constant, so it leaves them with an absolute minimum of attacking people with 1.5 bill planets (+ a possibility of 900 mill total from the three conversions). Which is a decent helping hand for a noob. Anymore and it would be like giving a shotgun to a kid and telling him to put down a mouse.

Hmm. To clarify, my idea was not at the first ascension, but at the second; "Target audience: Priors". *grin* To do this 3 times might be too much. It is a very powerful thing to use.

Juliette wrote:

stuff of legends wrote:I would say, instead of once at the first ascension, make it say up to LG.
i.e for your first ascension you have to ascend, to actually get the account, then from your second ascension up to and including incarnate (that leaves three possibilities) you have a choice, to bolster your ascended account purely from the energy of ascension, or to ascend. Once you ascend you ascend, if you choose to powerup the next 1k gnr will only lead to the possibility to ascend.
Max planets i reckon should be in the vicinity of a 300 mill constant, so it leaves them with an absolute minimum of attacking people with 1.5 bill planets (+ a possibility of 900 mill total from the three conversions). Which is a decent helping hand for a noob. Anymore and it would be like giving a shotgun to a kid and telling him to put down a mouse.

Hmm. To clarify, my idea was not at the first ascension, but at the second; "Target audience: Priors". *grin* To do this 3 times might be too much. It is a very powerful thing to use.

xD alright, instead of a constant it could be based off of the planet count. Still like the main idea anyway.

Bump to see if the new situation warrants a reevaluation of this suggestion.

an increase in viable farms?

I can not *NOT* support this...

two thumbs up!

Super bump!

I would happily get in on this suggestion. I see no real downside as long as how many planets you can get is capped, and once over x planet count you cannot get anymore.
Due to NG being released I should think a few changes will need to be made to the original suggestion:
- viable for any ascended level
- only planets gained
- planets can be gained up until x planet count (say 5 bill p count).

This isn't supposed to bolster all people but to help people with virtually nothing get into reach of bigger farms.

I agree with the idea but I do not think that NG accounts ascending need any boost at all on ascended. I mean getting an OOE account on main with a decent MS is boost enough. Lets face it. Most ppl with a NG account on main are not NEW players.. So giving them another extra boost in addition to a second main account would just be feeding more to the people that already HAVE power.. I say put them on a diet and feed the guys that need it.. only the really low lvl accounts on main IE prior-LG

just my 2 cents...

I think anyone who is still ascending should get as much as possible up to 12th ascension (Ancient God of Legend). Its half way up to unknown.

Any players who have come back to play from couple years ago with LG accounts will be hopeless out class. They need to be given a chance to catch up.

NG accounts should not get any help what so ever.

:p they do get help, it's called NG. Why else would a new player start in main anyway? New player or not they all start on nothing in ascended so I don't see why NGs should be barred from getting the planets.

Sol wrote::p they do get help, it's called NG. Why else would a new player start in main anyway? New player or not they all start on nothing in ascended so I don't see why NGs should be barred from getting the planets.

It is really not hard at all to build up an NG account off the AP gained from the raw stats it gives you... I think just over 14 days for 2b army size? Though that's coupled with a good sense of what to do, and some farming of whatever miniscule amounts available.

It's really only necessary for priors, as they are the ones most likely to be doing tiny LF ascensions, and also are more likely to not yet have a grasp on the game.