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renegadze wrote:erm does this mean all their LF including reserves? + their LF because you'd have to be pretty stupid to not refill after every hit (if you don't recover it naturally)

Cole wrote:

renegadze wrote:erm does this mean all their LF including reserves? + their LF because you'd have to be pretty stupid to not refill after every hit (if you don't recover it naturally)

UNLESS (I doubt it, never tried it or faced result so it's hypothetical at most) it's to deal with tiny TOC accounts used to "phase" their friends' account who would be attacked by someone able to descend said friends. Tiny hits medium to save from huge's attacks. Highly doubtful, and that would be the only reasonable appliance of said update.

Such as someone who has levels of <500, hitting someone around levels 700 to block him/her from being also targeted by someone with top 10 TOC who would go after the 700 levels person. Small TOC person losing big part of his/her reserves by doing so. If it concerns only LF "useable in battle", this is utter foolishness & death of descension!

RepliMagni wrote:Does it mean:
1) If you lose your LF and ALL your LF reserves hitting someone then you are descended? Cos if so, hasn't that always been the case?
2) If you lose your LF and the equivalent of your LF in reserves then you are descended? Cos if so, that's ridiculously easy to descend yourself by accident...
3) If you lose your LF and "some" as yet undefined amount of reserves then you are descended? Cos if so, then it may not make that much difference....

Personally I'm thinking its number 2, given the phrasing of the term "ALL their life force, and then some (where some = their life force)" - makes it look like if you lose your LF and that again worth of reserves then you are yourself descended.

If so, its plain daft and needs removing....

* Personal ascended attack -> if the attacker loses ALL their life force, and then some (where some = their life force), they descend themselves!! For 2 days....no kills awarded.
* Added a check on being to being attacks, to ensure total offensive capacity (TOC) is at least 5% of the target potential. Below this and you are not fit to battle them. At the very least this stops accidental self-descension.
The above 2 items were introduced (or reinstated actually, in a way) to stop attackers from tying up potential attackers with pointless/no chance of success battles. If you take on a monster, you may get eaten.
* Added a peronal log to record your godly thoughts and such.

Rocky wrote:

ƒëmmë ƒatalë wrote:yh, had that happen yesterday.. tried a decend attack on someone to see what SoL was talking bout in his thread lost all but 1 Ascended Life force (didn't effect reserve) and that was just one hit. OUCHIES

Agree Jim. you shouldn't be able to be decendable in one hit ..by your own hand or by someone elses (my ToC btw is 1.8b)

yea i don't quite understand it, i swear you always lose all your life force except 1 when you assault someone.

Mathlord wrote:Really unfair update. I realize people are upset about people blocking around the clock and while that seems to me to be a smart part of the game, I can understand why people don't appreciate it.

Anyway, if you want to make this fair, make it so there is no max limit on life force killed (like the 1/3 rule or whatever it is now for attacking someone), and then if their combined toc (reduced by your defenses) and whatever you throw at them repulsion-wise takes out all of their reserves and life force, they get descended. That should be enough.

This has just made any top account undescendable as well as many decent accounts.

Seriously though, why do we have to change the god damn rules every five seconds? Just because we see something happen ingame we don't like or that doesn't suit us? This game is fine. It was fine last year. It was fine the year before that. All that changing the rules every minute does is make the game easier for those with the resources to adapt to the changes and make smaller, weaker players have an even bigger disadvantage in catching up. It's like one of my alliance mates said..."well I could buy my next covert level now...or I'll wait to see if the game is still this way next month so I don't get screwed over again". It's really starting to piss me off.

Clarkey wrote:I like it.

Malx wrote:

Clarkey wrote:I like it.

ƒëmmë ƒatalë wrote:
Going to go try it on some innocent noob now

Mathlord wrote:On the update screen it says:

Personal ascended attack -> if the attacker loses ALL their life force, and then some (where some = their life force), they descend themselves!! For 2 days....no kills awarded.

That means that, for example, my life force is 191 mil. That's not great, but whatever, it's not terrible either. All that would have to happen for me to get descended is to be hit back with 382 mil attack by someone if I'm reading this right.

At the very least this will change the way people increase their toc's. Because of repulsion, people will focus on MNEC instead of attack levels so their toc's don't increase as much compared to their ability to block being descended each time they try to attack someone anywhere decent.