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sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:55 pm
by Guild
what you want to see there is how much weapons you have sabbed, its easier to work out how much damage you have caused and costs to the enemy.

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:32 pm
by Guild
do i need to get a TL,DDE,OE member on board with this so that jason will consider doing something... ](*,)

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:06 pm
by Guild
Eärendil wrote:just do the simple math lol


which is ?

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:59 am
by Flavar
I had to try it out to try and get what you mean. And i still dont get it. I reconed a random inactive,. Sabbed him. And reconed him again.
As you can see the weapons count went down, for excactly the same amout that was listet in the spy report in the middle. What excactly do you need/want.

DNA Targeted Multispectrum Disintegration Weapon Attack 475400 2000/2000

DNA Targeted Multispectrum Disintegration Weapon Attack 14261 2000/2000
DNA Targeted Multispectrum Disintegration Weapon Attack 461139 2000/2000


If you want to figure out the cost you caused. You calculate number of weapons sabbed *cost of the spezific weapon. (Equipped Military Fleet 5,760 555,800 Naquadah or Targeted Spacial Distortions 5,750 599,200 Naquadah) in most cases.

For the reduce in power its rather simple too, but i figure it its better for you to simple recon again and look at the number than to use multiple variables.

On a side nodes, no double posting in the future please and comments like you made in the second one are not really needed. Atleast this is not the place for them.




SABOTAGE AND SPY AND COVERT CAPACITY

* Ability to damage enemy increased. This is to keep the sab potential in line with growing power bases.
* The percent max damage per sabotage attempt went from 2 to 4% of their total weapons (double if 2way war is in place).
* The 'count' of spy actions against the realm, after successful sab, went from 3, to 2...SO in short you can do double sab damage, compared to before, and sab 33% more often before they hit the maximum amount of covert activity.
* Spying no longer uses covert capacity -you can either spy, or not. Covert capacity is left for sabotage.

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:03 am
by Guild
#-o ](*,)

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:17 am
by GOLDEN WING
err my brain can't handle confusing math so can anyone figure out an easy way (calculator method)
of working out how much that amount is in naq value???

Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 1,000,000,000,000


and everyone can do a simple x or divide sum for working it out?


or do you just x by 0.0001

which = 1 000 000 000 ? now what lol or is that how many weapons been sabbed?

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:18 am
by Flavar
thats why i wrote i didnot get what you mean...

but finally i get there i think...

Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001)

So your issue is that there is no seperate point for both?
Otherwise figuring out how many points/weapons you have destroyed is not that hard.
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)
You take that number and divide it with 5750 and you get how many weapons you destroyed alltogether. (That was the number for the ascended weapons.)

Is that what you meant?

If not write something instead of smilies. That really doesnot help getting your problem.

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:21 am
by GOLDEN WING
Yeah so To just make 100% sure you mean divide 1 000 000 000 /strongest weapon (usually is strongest) and you get amount of weapons att + Def sabbed total?

just making sure lol

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:22 am
by Guild
i mean in the ME part , it has a say this for example

Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 14,113,031,807,881

how many weapons is that ? how much is that worth ?

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:24 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
so ive sabbed 1.5b weps this war i think ive gone wrong ^^

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:24 am
by GOLDEN WING
Guild wrote:i mean in the ME part , it has a say this for example

Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 14,113,031,807,881

how many weapons is that ? how much is that worth ?

yeah i've always wanted to know aswel :)

~Da Vinci~ wrote:so ive sabbed 1.5b weps this war i think ive gone wrong ^^

Could dull it down a bit maybe its 15m>150m weapons depending on your total amount being high or low.

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:15 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
yeah probaly 150m not 15m weps hehe i thought it was more than that :(

Re: sort out the sab part of ME

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:23 pm
by Mathlord
The simple math is to divide by 5755 and get a rough estimate of weapons destroyed through massing or sabbing BUT that weapons damaged value ALSO includes weapon damage from every attack you make on someone, which artificially inflates the results.

For example, my total for this summer is:

Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 2,186,686,664,568

That would imply I've destroyed 380 mil weapons, but I've only massed two defenses since my temp ME was reset. The rest is damage to defenses from farming.