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USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:34 am
by Cole
From what I read on papers/internet articles, the most serious and decent competitor to current president Obama in the Republicans side, seem to be Mitt Romney..
Personally, if I was American, he's the only one among republicans (well, McCain was convincing for 2008, even though I disagreed with him on some subjects) to whom I would give my vote, even though I disagree on some subjects with him, I find him to be most solid/appropriate/experienced among all of the republicans.
I am not convinced at all by neither Libertarianism (Ron Paul) nor "Tea Partism" (Bachmann, Palin, Huckabee..whoever else there's). But well, I'm European, that must be why I'd only be likely to vote for the "establishment" candidate if I was to vote..? :-k

As for democrats...is there ANY competitor to Obama? I don't think so, but there might be..?

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:03 am
by [KMA]Avenger
There is only 1 candidate that will change things for the better and that's Ron Paul.

Look at RP's voting record, that's all you need to know.

Mit Romney will be more of the same-probably worse than Obama if that is even possible. Obama has turned out to be GwB on steroids. more war, more lies and more debt than even GwB could possibly have gotten away with.
Obama has the worst rating of ANY US president in history, even tricky D-ickey (damned filter!) doesn't come close. under his leadership the US congress's approval rating is just 6% (or was it 9%?) if i'm not mistaken. he has also spent more money than every single US president combined!


Mit Romney and the rest of that pack or scum?! GIVE ME A BREAK!

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:05 am
by ~Drunken Master~
At the end of the day, it does not matter who is president...

Foreign policy never changes.. ](*,)

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:07 am
by [KMA]Avenger
It doesn't matter?

Go compare RP's voting record to every other congressman/presidential candidate and you'll see that RP is the only real choice between more of the same and REAL change.

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:15 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
there all just puppets being controlled by the hidden powers..

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:16 am
by ~Drunken Master~
[KMA]Avenger wrote:It doesn't matter?

Go compare RP's voting record to every other congressman/presidential candidate and you'll see that RP is the only real choice between more of the same and REAL change.


It's what everyone said about Obama :-k

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:19 am
by xDaku
~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:It doesn't matter?

Go compare RP's voting record to every other congressman/presidential candidate and you'll see that RP is the only real choice between more of the same and REAL change.


It's what everyone said about Obama :-k


It's what anyone says about anyone they're supporting :-D

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:19 am
by ~Drunken Master~
xDaku wrote:
~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:It doesn't matter?

Go compare RP's voting record to every other congressman/presidential candidate and you'll see that RP is the only real choice between more of the same and REAL change.


It's what everyone said about Obama :-k


It's what anyone says about anyone they're supporting :-D


=D>

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:36 am
by Cole
~Da Vinci~ wrote:there all just puppets being controlled by the hidden powers..

....aka The "New World Order" I presume? :-"

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:46 am
by ~Drunken Master~
~Da Vinci~ wrote:there all just puppets being controlled by the hidden powers..


=D>

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:04 am
by soundmanc
I think they all suck. I think we need to gut the system and start over. "We the people" have been long forgotten. Granted, that's basically impossible, but I lack hope that anything will change or get better. A politician will not fix it, as his only job is to do whatever it takes to make sure he has a job. He has to please his financial backers to make sure he keeps getting money.

The system started out correctly. When people were elected to position. People aren't elected anymore, politicians are. Politicians don't care about the people, only the position.

When that error is fixed, probably never, we might hope to see improvement.

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:07 am
by [KMA]Avenger
#-o [-X

Putting the NWO aside...RP is his own man and i am talking about the others as more of the same.
I've listend to hours and hours of RP, i've watched him in the congress grilling people like little Timmy Gheitner and Osama Ben Bernanke, RP was the only man asking real questions about the fiasco of 08, he's STILL the only man who raises real issues.

I don't know what Obamas voting record is like but i would bet my house and everything in it, it's nowhere near as good as RP's.

You guys who put RP in the same light as the others have no idea what you are talking about!

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:09 am
by Lithium
teh next president will be a replilean from Zeta Reticuli :)

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:11 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Zeta 1 or Zeta 2?

Re: USA 2012 elections

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:55 am
by Ra
Ron Paul is a nutjob.. I think I still prefer a liar over a nut.